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So I tried to combine my latest Pstate overclock (4.0GHz) with my 120mhz bclk overclock to get my ram to run at 3200mhz. My system will post and begin booting with the ROG splash screen but it never passes it. I'm getting a combination of two different codes randomly on different boots. b1 and Ad.Ad is "ready to boot event" and b1 is "runtime set virtual addresss MAP end". Can anybody give me some insight on what these mean? I was guessing it had something to do with my nVME SSD having errors so I forced GEN2, same for my GPUS but it didn't help.Interestingly enough, I can reset bios to default settings, set my bclk to 120.2 on 2666 strap, 1.4v dram and 1.4v dram boot and get 3200mhz with a 4.0ghz CPU in manual overclock. I can also run 3000mhz ram with a 4.0GHz pstate overclock on my CPU and it works fine, I only have this issue when I try to combine the two and get 3200mhz ram and 4.0GHz Pstate overclock.
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YpsiNine: thanks!

Targonis: I went for good RAM, because I did a ton of reading on the memory stuff. I'm at work, so I don't have a pic of the serial number handy, but it's GSkill TridentZ 3600mhz at 15-15-15 (2 x 8GB sticks). I was thinking I probably won't be able to hit 3600 until the BIOS updates a few more times, but if it's CL15 @ 3600, I should hit 3200 CL14 without issue, maybe even CL13 if I'm lucky. smile.gif I'm cool with setting mem timings manually. This thread will be invaluable once I get this rig under water and start delving into the OCing. Lots of new acronyms to learn. smile.gif First thing I'll do is see what BIOS the board came with and go from there. I already have the newest BIOS downloaded (1002), but I'm gonna grab 082 from the post a ways back too. One step at a time. smile.gif Thanks for the info!!

I'm running similar ram and BIOS 0082. No issues with 3600 a few extra settings in BIOS but all good.
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So I tried to combine my latest Pstate overclock (4.0GHz) with my 120mhz bclk overclock to get my ram to run at 3200mhz. My system will post and begin booting with the ROG splash screen but it never passes it. I'm getting a combination of two different codes randomly on different boots. b1 and Ad.Ad is "ready to boot event" and b1 is "runtime set virtual addresss MAP end". Can anybody give me some insight on what these mean? I was guessing it had something to do with my nVME SSD having errors so I forced GEN2, same for my GPUS but it didn't help.Interestingly enough, I can reset bios to default settings, set my bclk to 120.2 on 2666 strap, 1.4v dram and 1.4v dram boot and get 3200mhz with a 4.0ghz CPU in manual overclock. I can also run 3000mhz ram with a 4.0GHz pstate overclock on my CPU and it works fine, I only have this issue when I try to combine the two and get 3200mhz ram and 4.0GHz Pstate overclock.
I think it means clear the CMOS and don't try a combination of BCLK and P-State
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i'll give that a go in the eve. thanks!

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You're welcome. smile.gif
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Thanks for the advice. I have read all 10,000+ messages on this forum (to this point) and my impression (I don't have an eidetic memory, but I did take notes) was that if I want 32 GB, then 2 x 16 was more likely to work at a given clock rate than 4 x 8. If that is a mistaken impression, then I await the inevitable schooling.

As previously noted, I also need the now-ordered C6H in hand to determine whether I have to use FlairX due to its lower height, or whether one of G.Skill's B die "TridentZ" will do, as I am aware of reported successes with 2 x 16 TridentZ.

And last let me note that I am too old to believe in GUARANTEES.

Yes, 2x 16GB DIMMs are generally higher clockable on ryzen compared to the same memory in a 4x 8GB DIMM configuration.

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I'm running similar ram and BIOS 0082. No issues with 3600 a few extra settings in BIOS but all good.
I think it means clear the CMOS and don't try a combination of BCLK and P-State

I can boot 3000 MHz ram and 4.0ghz pstate fine with a bclk overclock of 112.6. I only have the issue when I try for 3200 MHz 120.2 bclk
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Ok, that means you have 1T memory(16 gig sticks of memory are all 2T at this point). So, you can go for 0081, with 1002 being a fallback if you run into trouble. The Crosshair VI Hero will let you update the BIOS via a flash drive(designated USB port for the purpose) even if you have no CPU or RAM, you just need power in a worst case. I went for the "cheap" 2x16 Ripjaws V CL 16 stuff when I pre-ordered, so have been working with the 2T BIOS versions(0902 and 0083).

One thing about the newer BIOS versions is that some have reported needing more voltage to run stable, and I ran into that problem with 0083.

One thing to note, a code 8 on your motherboard(the LED post codes that show on the board) will indicate your CPU has crashed. I ran into that a bit with 0083, but have not had time to tweak with the voltages to get it stable just yet. So, I am running on 0902, just to keep things stable while I upgrade the OS again, and fix the PITA AI Suite 3 install problems I am running into.
My plan was to leave the CPU OCing alone and stabilize the memory first. Good to hear the USB bios flashback still works (love that feature). From what you said, I think I'll most likely start with 0082 and go from there. I don't see the point starting with 1002 based on this thread. This is getting set up on a test bed, and it isn't my main rig, so I have plenty of time to mess with it while waiting for AM4 water block mounts to get in stock. smile.gif

Thanks for taking the time to help!
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I can boot 3000 MHz ram and 4.0ghz pstate fine with a bclk overclock of 112.6. I only have the issue when I try for 3200 MHz 120.2 bclk

what is you vsoc set to? might behave different on pstate auto compared to oc mode.
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what is you vsoc set to? might behave different on pstate auto compared to oc mode.

I've tried everything from .9 to 1.2v. I've tried raising my timings from 14-14-14-14-34-1T to 18-18-18-18-38-1T, adjusting dram voltage from 1.35 to 1.4 (same with dram boot)
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DRAM cold boot workaround BIOS

Has been tested ok by several parties. Note that this is still quite experimental, but we figured out a way to recover if things go wrong (highly unlikely though). It's based on 0081.

C6H BIOS 0003

Couple of things you should know before flashing it:

- Clear CMOS before flashing. If you get stuck at a POST code after the "BIOS is updating" message + reset, clear CMOS again.
- Your EC will be updated with this version, meaning you will get the "BIOS is updating" message. Don't freak out, it will complete this time smile.gif
- This BIOS always boots with 90 MHz refclk and 1.35V DRAM, then resets by itself with the actual BIOS settings and voltages.
- Your chipset or VGA may not like running at 90 MHz in which case your system will be unable to POST even when using Safe Boot or with CMOS cleared (54/55/d6 error codes). The fix is to enable LN2 mode and press safe boot button which will set your refclk to 105 MHz. It's advised to test 90 MHz refclk on your system before flashing this BIOS to make sure you don't run into any issues.
- After reverting back to a previous BIOS your EC version will stay the same, meaning you will still boot at 90 MHz refclk. Send me a PM if this causes issues for you and I'll send a fix.

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@elmor and @gupsterg coz i know you love it
This is my last moan.....

This is me just testing boots on stock after a battery reset and reflash
3.58 for the juicy highlight!!!
https://1drv.ms/v/s!Ap54bdL_bUvmg2WopFNt6KaaixrD

Ok I see what you mean by initial readout error. But yes, it's just a reading error.
Edited by elmor - 4/21/17 at 3:51am
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DRAM cold boot workaround BIOS

Has been tested ok by several parties. Note that this is still quite experimental, but we figured out a way to recover if things go wrong (highly unlikely though). It's based on 0081.

C6H BIOS 0003

Couple of things you should know before flashing it:

- Clear CMOS before flashing. If you get stuck at a POST code after the "BIOS is updating" message + reset, clear CMOS again.
- Your EC will be updated with this version, meaning you will get the "BIOS is updating" message. Don't freak out, it will complete this time smile.gif
- This BIOS always boots with 90 MHz refclk and 1.35V DRAM, when BIOS code takes over it will apply your own settings and reset once to train DRAM at the wanted settings. You might see 90 MHz refclk being applied after Safe Boot or CMOS clear.
- Your chipset or VGA may not like running at 90 MHz in which case your system will be unable to POST even when using Safe Boot or with CMOS cleared (54/55/d6 error codes). The fix is to enable LN2 mode which will set your refclk to 105 MHz. It's advised to test 90 MHz refclk on your system before flashing this BIOS to make sure you don't run into any issues.
- After reverting back to a previous BIOS your EC version will stay the same, meaning you will still boot at 90 MHz refclk. Send me a PM if this causes issues for you and I'll send a fix.
Ok I see what you mean by initial readout error. But yes, it's just a reading error.

Well thats a good step forward, means that once a new bios is out ill be able to use 100mhz and my 1.35/1.35 dram voltages with 1.15soc and not have to reset once to get it to boot, and hopefully not get stuck in an f9>0d once in a while.

Right now im sticking to 2933mhz as its had ZERO issues and a fresh w10c install as putting my pc to sleep then waking it gave me nothing but code 8 i couldnt get out of even clearing cmos.
    
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