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DRAM cold boot workaround BIOS

Has been tested ok by several parties. Note that this is still quite experimental, but we figured out a way to recover if things go wrong (highly unlikely though). It's based on 0081.

C6H BIOS 0003

Couple of things you should know before flashing it:

- Clear CMOS before flashing. If you get stuck at a POST code after the "BIOS is updating" message + reset, clear CMOS again.
- Your EC will be updated with this version, meaning you will get the "BIOS is updating" message. Don't freak out, it will complete this time smile.gif
- This BIOS always boots with 90 MHz refclk and 1.35V DRAM, then resets by itself with the actual BIOS settings and voltages.
- Your chipset or VGA may not like running at 90 MHz in which case your system will be unable to POST even when using Safe Boot or with CMOS cleared (54/55/d6 error codes). The fix is to enable LN2 mode which will set your refclk to 105 MHz. It's advised to test 90 MHz refclk on your system before flashing this BIOS to make sure you don't run into any issues.
- After reverting back to a previous BIOS your EC version will stay the same, meaning you will still boot at 90 MHz refclk. Send me a PM if this causes issues for you and I'll send a fix.

Will this be part of the default/main bios later on? Or is it just a temporary fix for those having cold boot issues?

I'm assuming those who do not have cold boot issues can safely ignore this and wait for other beta bioses?
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Hmmm, forgoing testing 0003, sorry.

+rep for share/continued development Asus team thumb.gif .
Edited by gupsterg - 4/20/17 at 8:41am
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Well thats a good step forward, means that once a new bios is out ill be able to use 100mhz and my 1.35/1.35 dram voltages with 1.15soc and not have to reset once to get it to boot, and hopefully not get stuck in an f9>0d once in a while.

Right now im sticking to 2933mhz as its had ZERO issues and a fresh w10c install as putting my pc to sleep then waking it gave me nothing but code 8 i couldnt get out of even clearing cmos.

I think you misunderstood, the reset is handled by the BIOS. You will still be booting at the refclk you set, it's just the first couple of seconds the system will be running at 90 MHz. Think of it as a kind of soft start.
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Hmmm, forgoing testing 0003, sorry.

Ditto, I'm lucky that I don't have (touch wood) cold boot issues.

Just the occasional F9 double boot.
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Guys, can you clarify some nomenclature for me? When you say "cold boot", are you talking about "shut down/power cycle off" or are you talking about "disconnect from power /PSU off"?

Asking because because shut down is problem free for me, disconnecting from power on the other hand fails memory training (I guess).
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Ditto, I'm lucky that I don't have (touch wood) cold boot issues.

Just the occasional F9 double boot.

Yeah "Sleep" mode working SUPERBLY for me smile.gif . Also adding SIO CPU Sensor mode change app to Windows Task Scheduler 0 issues so far on implementation smile.gif .

So there is a silver lining to W10 over W7 for me biggrin.gif . Luv'in g the instant "go to" desktop, feels like I'm back on my i5/Z97 biggrin.gif , as R7/X370 post from shutdown is a crawl, even with 1x post loop.

Where did you get on final 24/7 OC on same batch of R7 1700 mate as me?
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Guys, can you clarify some nomenclature for me? When you say "cold boot", are you talking about "shut down/power cycle off" or are you talking about "disconnect from power /PSU off"?

Asking because because shut down is problem free for me, disconnecting from power on the other hand fails memory training (I guess).

I think it means both disconnecting from power and after you shutdown the computer for a long period of time (overnight) and attempting to boot up in the morning.

My tests long ago though revealed that even those two events are separate. Boots from complete power off (disconnecting PSU entirely) often resulted in failed bootups but I was fine booting from prolonged shutdowns (so long as I don't disconnect PSU cord).
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Yeah "Sleep" mode working SUPERBLY for me smile.gif . Also adding SIO CPU Sensor mode change app to Windows Task Scheduler 0 issues so far on implementation smile.gif .

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Where did you get on final 24/7 OC on same batch of R7 1700 mate as me?

It can pass stress tests at 4.0Ghz at 1.41v but I get WHEA errors, so another bump or 2 would probably do that too. I'd say it's stable (limited testing) at 1.42v.

I didn't think 0.1v was worth 100Mhz however, so I settled on 3.9Ghz at 1.319v, so not too bad.
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Guys, can you clarify some nomenclature for me? When you say "cold boot", are you talking about "shut down/power cycle off" or are you talking about "disconnect from power /PSU off"?

Asking because because shut down is problem free for me, disconnecting from power on the other hand fails memory training (I guess).

- shutdown PC via OS
- mains still active to PSU

I will have borked boot only on 3200MHz intermittently. Each time I use 2933MHz I have not had one. Tried plenty of ROMs, ProcODT, VBOOT/VDIMM, SOC, etc, etc ...

Can not be bothered now ...

Happy with using "Sleep". I see ~4.0W from wall plug meter with shutdown as highlighted above, "Sleep" is ~5.0W. For the sake of my sanity and getting back to normal PC usage without being in UEFI all the time I can live with ~1.0W power usage biggrin.gif .
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It can pass stress tests at 4.0Ghz at 1.41v but I get WHEA errors, so another bump or 2 would probably do that too. I'd say it's stable (limited testing) at 1.42v.

I didn't think 0.1v was worth 100Mhz however, so I settled on 3.9Ghz at 1.319v, so not too bad.

+rep smile.gif , I'd be happy with 3.9GHz @ 1.319V, defo better chip than mine, 3.8GHz is a tad higher for me than your OC. Yeah 4.0GHz is bench stable for me, using 3.9GHz voltage offset of +250mV = ~1.44V CPU Core Voltage (SVI TFN).

I wonder how @Benus74 is getting on with his R7 1700?
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Drat. 1 error in the 8hr 20m timeframe. Game over for 18-16-16-38!

Well i knew 18-16-16-38 was the tip of the ice berg. Will try 18-17-17-39 smile.gif 18-18-18-39 would be close to guaranteed I believe, its what I started with before I started trying reducing it.

The error is probably because I didn't close all useless backround processes too redface.gif.

I'm in a similar situation, though mine is getting errors quite a bit more than 1 per 8h. I'm trying messing with the VDDR and VSOC to see if it helps, while you try the timings. Just one thing, 1 error in 8h is a bit too low, with non-ECC memory we are all vulnerable to the eventual cosmic ray flipping a bit. It may be that you are stable already and just got unlucky.
    
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