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Originally Posted by Targonis View Post

Elmor posts a utility to help those in the community, and you complain because you personally are not getting a benefit from it. Don't expect them to go out and make a Linux version. As I said in my last post, these features will be added to the BIOS as soon as it makes sense to do so. If being hostile and antagonistic toward the Asus employees drives them to not post, then YOU are partially responsible for that, and THAT is what is toxic.

This is NOT an Asus forum, they are not obligated to do a single thing here, and they sure as hell don't deserve to get grief for doing more than their job actually expects them to do. When it comes to this sort of thing, it isn't always about what you say, it is how you say it. Asking if/when this stuff would be added to the BIOS is fine, but being demanding that because Linux doesn't get this program is what sets a negative tone.


It's funny interacting with Windows users.

You're making a lot of assumptions, most of which are false.
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you complain because you personally are not getting a benefit from it

No I'm complaining because the underlying issue of the pstate OC in BIOS still does not work.
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Don't expect them to go out and make a Linux version

That's not how the Linux community works. No Linux user wants some one-off proprietary app. If ASUS were to open source the spec for the interface that lets the app set those settings, then the community could definitely write very simple shell scripts to fill the gap itself.
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As I said in my last post, these features will be added to the BIOS as soon as it makes sense to do so.

As I said in my response to your last post, I agree.
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If being hostile and antagonistic toward the Asus employees drives them to not post, then YOU are partially responsible for that, and THAT is what is toxic.

I appreciate you making up hypothetical situations, but Elmor already replied directly to my post... Soo yeahh cool story. Where is the hostility exactly?
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Asking if/when this stuff would be added to the BIOS is fine, but being demanding that because Linux doesn't get this program is what sets a negative tone.

I didn't demand a single thing.
Edited by jugs - 4/21/17 at 8:12am
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Originally Posted by r4m0n View Post

Which issues, care to point any? They work fine here.
It works in Linux fine as well, it's just the ZenStates app that doesn't.

Ok that is good to know.

App is rather kickass and most definitely wanted. Adding profiles to it would be rather awesome. I would have some with very low power settings for 24/7 rendering type scenario. It could be very useful for configuring a machine for different type of workloads on the fly. Fast for games, low power/quiet for long sessions of rendering etc.
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It's funny interacting with Windows users.

You're making a lot of assumptions, most of which are false.
No I'm complaining because the underlying issue of the pstate OC in BIOS still does not work.
That's not how the Linux community works. No Linux user wants some one-off proprietary app. If ASUS were to open source the spec for the interface that lets the app set those settings, then the community could definitely write very simple shell scripts to fill the gap itself.
As I said in my response to your last post, I agree.
I appreciate you making up hypothetical situations, but Elmor already replied directly to my post... Soo yeahh cool story. Where is the hostility exactly?
I didn't demand a single thing.

Yes the bios for all AMD motherboards that will support Pstate customization would be very nice if it worked 100% - Agreed - for everyone.

The app goes beyond a set configuration - it can be changed on the fly and is more useful than just a bios configuration. I would think any interestested Linux developer would work with ASUS to port or build something like this for Linux or at least ask. I am sure plenty of Linux developers would be willing to work with ASUS.
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No I'm complaining because the underlying issue of the pstate OC in BIOS still does not work.

Actually, I didn't want to get involved in this rant, but now I've to clarify something.

Pstate OC in BIOS is working!

You can set the FIDs of p0, p1 and p2. And you can also set the VIDs of p1 and p2.

The only thing that doesn't work at the moment, is setting the VID of p0. But this you can fix by using Vcore offset and lowering the VID of p1 and p2 accordingly.

It's all there, it's all working, just a little bit more tricky.
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Yes the bios for all AMD motherboards that will support Pstate customization would be very nice if it worked 100% - Agreed - for everyone.

The app goes beyond a set configuration - it can be changed on the fly and is more useful than just a bios configuration. I would think any interestested Linux developer would work with ASUS to port or build something like this for Linux or at least ask. I am sure plenty of Linux developers would be willing to work with ASUS.

Yes... Hi Linux developer here... You mean they could ask ASUS for a developer guide that they usually release like I did here?
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Actually, I didn't want to get involved in this rant, but now I've to clarify something.

Pstate OC in BIOS is working!

You can set the FIDs of p0, p1 and p2. And you can also set the VIDs of p1 and p2.

The only thing that doesn't work at the moment, is setting the VID of p0. But this you can fix by using Vcore offset and lowering the VID of p1 and p2 accordingly.

It's all there, it's all working, just a little bit more tricky.

Thanks, I was having issues with P1/P2 as well but I haven't tried again on 0081. Will do.
Edited by jugs - 4/21/17 at 8:22am
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Yes... Hi Linux developer here... You mean they could ask ASUS for a developer guide that they usually release like I did here?
Thanks, I was having issues with P1/P2 as well but I haven't tried again on 0081. Will do.

I would also consider if that would also rapidly change due to AGESA microcode changes. A fixed guide would probably be very limited in duration at this time in other words. All I saying is any interested developer needs to contact ASUS who can just point blank say no or maybe say yes.
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Originally Posted by TwoBeers View Post

Actually, I didn't want to get involved in this rant, but now I've to clarify something.

Pstate OC in BIOS is working!

You can set the FIDs of p0, p1 and p2. And you can also set the VIDs of p1 and p2.

The only thing that doesn't work at the moment, is setting the VID of p0. But this you can fix by using Vcore offset and lowering the VID of p1 and p2 accordingly.

It's all there, it's all working, just a little bit more tricky.

It's all working until you have a failed post = 1.5V or more.

Not laying it on Asus and not saying AMD are being better.

I'm with @jugs.

I would like PState working fully. I have posted reddit thread I could not note members from here even bothering to come and support thread with upvote or comment. @madweazl is the only member from here I recognize who came there.

I have also mentioned/tagged AMD_Matt / @LtMatt in an attempt to get feedback to him so someone on AMD side can say hey look sort out this issue.

I also plan to do a thread on AMD Community forum, again I will link here and Ryzen owners thread and hope members will post something to support thread.

I'm total windows user.

But I literally like to do all OC via bios, may that be CPU/GPU. It is a rare occasion for me to use OC SW. This is literally why I spent so much time on Hawaii/Fiji bios mod.
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Hmm ok, then enabling HPET should solve it. Or set ratios from AMD CBS and voltages in OS.
Same as above, you probably need to enable HPET.
Having HPET enabled kills performance in some games. I don't recommend it.
Edited by NotAgain - 4/21/17 at 8:40am
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Having HPET enabled kills performance in some games. I don't recommend it.

How can you disable it in the first place? I haven't looked too much into the bios yet but I haven't seen a setting for that specifically.
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How can you disable it in the first place? I haven't looked too much into the bios yet but I haven't seen a setting for that specifically.

It's not a BIOS setting, it's a windows setting.

See here
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