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Help me ID these: F4-3400-C16D-32GTZ, CL16-16-16-36, barcode 1715A5001052303
I know from the barcode these are Samsung, made in week 15 of 2017, dual channel.
Can I tell the chip model and die type without installing these (don't want to unnecessarily open the sealed box)?

According to this guy it's Samsung B ICs.
To get a 100% accurate answer contact G.Skill directly.
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Originally Posted by wolfpack122 View Post

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Originally Posted by 1TM1 View Post

Help me ID these: F4-3400-C16D-32GTZ, CL16-16-16-36, barcode 1715A5001052303
I know from the barcode these are Samsung, made in week 15 of 2017, dual channel.
Can I tell the chip model and die type without installing these (don't want to unnecessarily open the sealed box)?

According to this guy it's Samsung B ICs.
To get a 100% accurate answer contact G.Skill directly.

Being 3400/cl16 I'll bet it is Samsung b-die.


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Originally Posted by bluej511 View Post

Considering windows 10 already comes with hpet disabled i think it already works with it off haha.

I think it works without the HPET inasmuch as you can change the multipliers for P-states on the fly but you cant change the voltages.
You can change the voltages in ZenStates but they dont make it to the bios.
At least that's how I understand it but I might be wrong.
I tried x39.5 at 1.4v with hpet off and = instant weirdness, flashy screens and reset.
hpet on with same settings = all good and working normally. cinebench score of 1733.
Which is almost "Leet" if you are a bit slydexic.
Incidentally the AM4 socket has 1331 pins which is sad because it could so easily have been 1337 for extra Leetness.

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Might try 4GHz now but I think that might be pushing it.
Edited by dorbot - 4/21/17 at 8:12pm
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Being 3400/cl16 I'll bet it is Samsung b-die.


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Not necessary. F4-3400C16D-16GTZ is Samsung E ICs.
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Being 3400/cl16 I'll bet it is Samsung b-die.


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Not necessary. F4-3400C16D-16GTZ is Samsung E ICs.
You're right. 3400 cl16 IS Samsung e-die and also it is dual ranked. 3466 cl16 is the one that is Samsung b-die.

To be honest with you I bit the bullet and bought one of the recommended Samsung b-die single ranked memories to be able to run the 3200mhz strap but I should've kept my cheaper Samsung e-die because anyways I use it on 2666 with blck overclock to 3466. Why? I can't even overclock to blck 103 using the 3200mhz strap.


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I did a thing:

4.26 validated http://valid.x86.fr/47d5tf

FS Ultra @ 4.2 GHz http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12404482

Timespy CPU over 9k http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1608525
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Works pretty well for me so far on Win10 1607. The voltage setting corresponds exactly to the SVI2 vCore, the motherboard vCore sensor shows slightly higher values. I set it to 1.36875 for 3925MHz , which seems to have the same result as default 1.35v + 0.01875 offset via Pstate/Offset in the BIOS.

Edit: Still seems to disable XFR though.

XFR and CPB is always disabled when you enter "OC mode", which happens as soon as your P0 ratio is higher than default (36.25x for example on 1800X).

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I'm following this thread for 1,5 months after I bought my asus hero and learned many things

Now i'm trying to use ZenStates but have problem with downclocking at p1 and p2. I'm using bios 081 and I already tried auto and custom (at default values) settings for P0, P1 and P2 states in bios. All other bios values are at default settings (most of them at auto) except my rams working at 3200 Mhz.

Here is my Zenstates settings.


After I applied these values CPU gone up to 4000mhz and doesn't downlock.

This is HWinfo screenshot at desktop.


This is CPU-z


I think I'm missing something but I cant find what the problem is, any suggestions?

Do you get downclocking with default settings in the BIOS? Are you using balanced power profile?

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I have 2x16GB Corsair LPX RAM Version 5.39 (CMK32GX4M2B3000C15) and can overclock my RAM to 2666 via 2666 memory strap but anything above it will cause a boot-loop. I think my RAM is Hynix-based. If I wanted to overclock higher than the 2666 I'm getting, what settings should I change. Is REFCLK the same thing as BCLK? My 1700x is overclocked via P-States so I don't want to use adjust BCLK as it will remove my overclock.

Yes, REFCLK = BCLK. Some have had luck on the later BIOSes running 2933 or 3200 DRAM Ratio if changing ProcODT to 60 ohms with Hynix.

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Originally Posted by ShiftyJ View Post

Nice. Will this be usable with HPET disabled in the future? I don't really want to enable it.

I'll try to investigate how Ryzen Master works without it. You can still use it without HPET if you don't change the P0 ratio (you can change it in AMD CBS, then use ZenStates to change VID and P1/P2 states).

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If you're running an AGESA 1004a BIOS (0079, 0081, 0082, 0083, or 0003) then you don't need HPET to use the tool.

That turned out to be incorrect.

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I think it works without the HPET inasmuch as you can change the multipliers for P-states on the fly but you cant change the voltages.
You can change the voltages in ZenStates but they dont make it to the bios.
At least that's how I understand it but I might be wrong.
I tried x39.5 at 1.4v with hpet off and = instant weirdness, flashy screens and reset.
hpet on with same settings = all good and working normally. cinebench score of 1733.
Which is almost "Leet" if you are a bit slydexic.
Incidentally the AM4 socket has 1331 pins which is sad because it could so easily have been 1337 for extra Leetness.

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Might try 4GHz now but I think that might be pushing it.

That's quite a journey, perhaps due to Creator's update. Will try it next week. It's the other way around, you can't change P0 ratio if HPET is disabled. P1/P2 ratios and P0/P1/P2 VID is fine either case. You can set P0 ratio from AMD CBS and then rely on ZenStates for increased VID.
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@elmor

What is q code A9? All of a sudden I was unable to boot for a while until I re-seated by GPU twice. It was very odd...
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Considering windows 10 already comes with hpet disabled i think it already works with it off haha.

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If you're running an AGESA 1004a BIOS (0079, 0081, 0082, 0083, or 0003) then you don't need HPET to use the tool.
I tried it with HPET disabled and my computer went spastic. Its not an option for me at least right now.
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@gupsterg This made the trick, I've opened the power settings in windows and my Minimum processor state was set to 90%, but yours is 5%.
Changed mine to 5% as well, and tadaam, my CPU is now switching to 1.5Ghz on Idle smile.gif
AMD said that due to the way power states work with Ryzen, you wouldn't necessarily see the processor's downclocking being reported in software as that would only report the previous P-state.
Perhaps someone else can confirm this or provide more details, but my understanding is that the Ryzen Balanced profile is designed to prevent the CPU from core parking and downclocking significantly using P-states, but still allows the use of C-states to save power when idle - which the CPU can switch in/out of in 1ms.
When the CPU enters C-states, it's not recorded by monitoring software. So the CPU is running in a much lower power state when idle, but you don't see a reduced clockspeed.
If you monitor Vcore though, you should see that it drops below 0.4v when idle if you are using P-state overclocking vs a fixed multiplier which is always running at a set voltage.
If I monitor my UPS, I don't see any improvement in power consumption when idle from setting the minimum processor state to 5% vs 90%.
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