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post #11031 of 17210
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Originally Posted by rossctr View Post

Funny thing is, in BIOS SPD it shows DIMM-B2 as the one that lost the XMP profile etc yet that is the stick the still has the LEDs working :/

More funny is that mine did same. The one with broken RGB showed the right xmp profile. And the other one with Leds half working showed weird xmp ( 0.0)

I removed the stick one by one and tried to boot. The one with weird xmp didn't boot anymore when seated alone in the banks. That was the moment I knew the stick was died.
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Originally Posted by majestynl View Post

More funny is that mine did same. The one with broken RGB showed the right xmp profile. And the other one with Leds half working showed weird xmp ( 0.0)

I removed the stick one by one and tried to boot. The one with weird xmp didn't boot anymore when seated alone in the banks. That was the moment I knew the stick was died.

Well hopefully they will give me a straight up swap, they still have stock so Im going to drive down there tomorrow.

Anyone here dealt with Novatech in the UK?
post #11033 of 17210
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Originally Posted by rossctr View Post

Thanks for the tip. Yes they are Samsung B's, running at 2933 at the mo. 3200 doesn't post and then reverts itself back to 2133 (BIOS 0081).

Havn't really got much incentive to try anything else right now as the RGB have stopped working altogether. Is this something that can be fixed or should I just be sending the board back? This is my first Asus board and its not off to a good start. Considering sending it back in exchange for something else

Could you detail what you have done so far to restore your LED functioning?
post #11034 of 17210
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Originally Posted by harrysun View Post

I'm using this DDR4 kit G.Skill Trident Z DIMM Kit 2x16GB (F4-3200C14D-32GTZ)

(Created with Thaiphoon Burner Freeware Version Download)


HCI Design MemTest pending: @DDR4-3200 CL14-14-14-34-63-2T 1.350V

AMD Ryzen R7 1800X no-OC/Stock, Stepping 1 Revision ZP-B1
ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR VI HERO, BIOS 0083 04/07/2017
Motherboard Slots: DIMM_A2, DIMM_B2
Download ASUS BIOS 0083 configuration file: harrysun_02_RAM3200CL14_CPU3600_settings.txt
  • Advanced \ AMD CBS \ UMC Common Options \ DDR4 Common Opitions > ProcODT = 96 Ohm (Standard Auto/53.3 Ohm)
  • Extreme Tweaker > BCLK Frequency = 120.0000 (Standard Auto/100.0000)
  • Extreme Tweaker > DRAM Timing Control = 14-14-14-14-34
  • Extreme Tweaker > DRAM Voltages = 1.350V (Standard 1.350V)
  • Extreme Tweaker \ External Digi+ Power Control > DRAM VBoot Voltage = Auto

CPU-Z validation: http://valid.x86.fr/6hjcyp


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Originally Posted by harrysun View Post

That is right. Without BCLK tuning I get max DDR4-2666 CL14-13-13-32-63-1T 1.350V with this kit: http://www.overclock.net/t/1624603/rog-crosshair-vi-overclocking-thread/10930#post_26038782

I've got exactly the same RAM kit, but I don't want to do BCLK OC, so I'm waiting for AMD AGESA May update to see if it's achievable with my CPU. Currently running my memory at @2933.
post #11035 of 17210
So, I had a lot of time with this system now and I think I have the settings dialed in now. Summing up:

- I didn't have any problems running my RAM at 3200Mhz 14-14-14-34 ever. RAM is F4-3200C14-8GTZSW. Must have been lucky with my IMC as well.
- I high SoC voltage does nothing for me, neither does raising VDDP. That said, I'm not OCing BCLK.
- The difference between everyday stability and "true" stability is huge
Code:
1.38125v     stable for everyday use. Runs OCCT + x264. RealBench crash.
1.40v           stable for everyday use. RealBench stable.
1.4125v         crash Prime, crash IBT. RealBench stable.
1.425v          IBT Standard stable.
All values with LLC Auto. SoC is 0.95v. That is a 0.04375v difference between a usable voltage and "I can pass every stress test". This is a 1800X @ 4Ghz.

For now, I'm running at 1.40 VID since that is also the maximum recommended on air. I don't really care it's not running Prime and IBT. I have used the system for days and I have no problems in real world use.
Edited by digitalfrost - 4/23/17 at 12:54pm
post #11036 of 17210
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Originally Posted by CeltPC View Post

Could you detail what you have done so far to restore your LED functioning?

Well I tried different BIOS and toggling the setting in BIOS but other than that I'm not sure what else I could do. Yesterday the Asus Aura software showed the M/B parts inc headers, this morning it only showed my G.Skill RAM and now it just out right crashes when I try to open it. Just downloaded the G.Skill software and that just crashes as well so I'm pretty much stuck now.
post #11037 of 17210
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Originally Posted by digitalfrost View Post

So, I had a lot of time with this system now and I think I have the settings dialed in now. Summing up:

- I didn't have any problems running my RAM at 3200Mhz 14-14-14-34 ever. RAM is F4-3200C14-8GTZSW. Must have been lucky with my IMC as well.
- I high SoC voltage does nothing for me, neither does raising VDDP. That said, I'm not OCing BCLK.
- The difference between everyday stability and true stability is huge
Code:
1.38125v     stable for everyday use. Runs OCCT + x264. RealBench crash.
1.40v           stable for everyday use. RealBench stable.
1.4125v         crash Prime, crash IBT. RealBench stable.
1.425v          IBT Standard stable.
All values with LLC Auto. SoC is 0.95v. That is a 0.04375v difference. 1800X @ 4Ghz.

For now, I'm running at 1.40 VID since that is also the maximum recommended on air. I don't really care it's not running Prime and IBT. I have used the system for days and I have no problems in real world use.

But but it's not stable unless you run 900 million hours of IBT.....yea ok lol. Its perfectly fine. People who insist on running IBT over and over must change their CPUs out yearly. It really is a pointless test unless your pc is running that hard all the time.

Should be a rule that we don't talk about stress testing in this thread or the ryzen owner threads. Its totally subjective and just leads to headaches and heartaches haha. You guys do realize a system will never be able to please everyone all the time. Mine has been fine under load at 1.199v with ZERO crashes, ZERO BSODs and ZERO WHEA errors. Only time i have issues is when i mess with the BIOS and soc and ram settings (and w10 destroying itself for some reason).

There will always be newer versions of testing software and always someone on your ass about passing that one or your system is not stable, it will NEVER end. If it's stable for what you are using it for daily then its stable. There is ZERO reason to up the voltage (and degrade your chip) just to please people on the internet thumb.gif

P.S. Even though it passes realbench or any testing software, just make sure to check for WHEA errors.
    
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More funny is that mine did same. The one with broken RGB showed the right xmp profile. And the other one with Leds half working showed weird xmp ( 0.0)

I removed the stick one by one and tried to boot. The one with weird xmp didn't boot anymore when seated alone in the banks. That was the moment I knew the stick was died.

Just tried each stick on its own and it booted into windows fine both time.... wierd
post #11039 of 17210
So, finally I built my AM4 rig.

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600
MBO Asus Crosshair VI Hero
RAM: G.Skill TridentZ RGB 3200C14 (Samsung B) 2x8GB

MBO:
- board arrived with 0902 (there is a sticker on SATA ports which says 0902)

CPU cooling:
- using TR Venomous X and it CANNOT be used with MBO's bracket
- stock AM4 retention removed by unscrew those 4 screws
- MBO bracket removed without using hairdryer, just using picnic plastic knife as gently shoving the blade between bracket and that insulation (so no contact with MBO) and at the same time, slightly pushing pillars from other side
- TR AM4 bracket is compatible with this board, but I didn't use that plastic plug that goes in center square hole in backplate, since is touching SMDs below CPU socket
- TR Venomous X assembly went well with combination of new version TRUE BTK and AM4 bracket which TR gave for free (proof of cooler purchase needed for obtaining free of charge AM4 upgrade kit)

System:
- 1st boot was OK, in 5-7 seconds system POSTed
- immediately flashed to 0082 and set RAM to 3200 MHz via it's XMP (DOCP) profile reader, voltage 1,37V / boot RAM 1,4V / SOC 1.0V / super i/o clock skew DISABLED / procodt 53.3 and F10
- RAM settings OK after 2-3 restarts by system itself
- manual settings for CPU (BCLK not touched) and ratio set at 32 with voltage 1,18V / LLC level 2

OS:
- Windows 10 Enterprise x64 installed on M.2 960 EVO 250GB
- installed all new drivers from AMD site and from Asus some specific as AiSuite3

Since I am not a user who must squeeze every hertz from CPU, for CPU OC is used AiSuite3 (as used on previous builds with Asus MBOs) and it is set with 2 profiles:
1. desktop profile 3,2 GHz
2. game profile 3,9 GHz

Here are some benches with "stock" and OC values:

Stock:






OC:






For two days I constantly playing games and using Handbrake. Ran some Passmarks, Unigine Superposition benches, Cinebenches, but no IBT, Orthos or other "suicide" run stuff since I am not swimming in those waters smile.gif
Not a single BSOD or crash-to-desktop in games (Far Cry 4, Far Cry Primal, DOOM, Metro 2033/LL Redux, Battlefield 1... all Singleplayers since I do not play MP).

Overall - quite good and satisfied upgrade over my 5-year old 2600K and P8Z77-V board.

That's it for me, until May AGESA updates and maybe getting straps on 3600 for RAM, w/o touching BCLK.

Thanks to everyone here who helped, but especially to @gupsterg and @shar (from some other forum).

Feel free to ask anything smile.gif
post #11040 of 17210
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Originally Posted by RS87 View Post

Hmm. Did you download the correct version? I downloaded the top on of the two and then clicked the read button and chose the top one from the drop down. I think it ended with 50H.

Try running compatibility mode and/or system administrator. (I didnt need to do these but hey, worth a shot). Im running latest Win 10 Pro (not preview).
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Ran The Division benchmark in DX12 with a few different bclk and target freq settings with HPET off:
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4022mhz, 101.2 bclk (initial boot)


4149mhz, 101.2 bclk



4026mhz, 98.8 bclk


4001mhz, 98.8 bclk


4149mhz, 98.8 bclk


Seeing a tiny increase in fps by reducing the base clock, not so much with increasing the frequency.
Not nearly as much of an improvement as with synthetic benchmarks.

I was so pleasantly surprised to see all cores and threads being put to use equally with this game running DX12 render.

Running 1800x at stock with XFR enabled. Surely when we can truly OC these processors and chipsets, these will give intel a run for their money?!
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