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@elmor

I confirm with Core Performance Boost set to [Disabled] on a failed boot with PState 0 OC and offset mode voltage I don't get ~1.5V smile.gif .

I did video of system at 3.8GHz / 3200MHz setting in UEFI. I shutdown PC via case button, switch off mains, PC do failed boot when powered on. AMD CBS reset, Extreme Tweaker settings still apply. As PB/XFR is off, due to CPB disabled, CPU in default mode does not reach ~1.35V and have +162mV added = ~1.5V. I instead get ~1.000V + offset smile.gif .

@Johan45 @noko59

You guys may wanna highlight in your PState guides for readers to knock it out if using offset voltage mode, as I have seen them being linked on here/other places. I will add info to my thread as well.

@geoxile

Thank you for this discussion that has lead to a fix for me until UEFI is sorted wink.gif .
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what volts u on ?? Im one of people that got 3600 stable here from 3200 cl16 kit with crappy cl18.

Besides that cpu ?? and ram kit ?? Throw us a bone to go from biggrin.gif

I have been trying 3600 16-16-16-36-1T @ 1.45v My ram is G. Skill F4-3600C16-8GTZR (B-Die). So it is native 3600 but with 2T. No way to switch Command Rate on the Gaming K7 =/.
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Aaaa to get my 3600 im on 135.x bclk what cpu Soc are You on?? Onnmy case auto booted up with 1.15 but reduced to my 3472ddr stable volts and thats 1.13x but thats up to how good imc You have. Some here say/tested that it can warry and x series could have better imcs MAYBE.

1,25v SOC (Yes I am aware that this is high). Your point about the x series having a better imc could be true.
At 1.2v SOC I was having freezes at 3200.

I will try auto SOC and see what is happening.
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Read the prior posts. I now have no regrets for not buying the RBG Trident Z's ! I've also not bothered installing ASUS aura to control the mobo lights, which BTW there is an updated version as of a few days ago in the support section for the Crosshair VI Hero if you haven't checked it out yet.
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4.0 + 3300-CL14 Cinebench results: Single Core 164, Multi Core 1783. Interestingly an older MC run at 4.1 only reached 1739, so I assume that I used slow RAM settings back then.

I theorize that if your CPU gets hot enough to throttle during the run your score will drop, tho I could be wrong. I've tried runs at higher (and fairly unsafe /w LLC4) voltages for 4200mhz and ended up with pretty darn high temp and lower score than 4150mhz with safer voltage, so i'm banking on CPU temp being at fault. Plus I still got WHEA errors. I believe If I get a top of the line water cooling system I can get proper scores and less or no errors. Right now I sport a simple H100i, which is good enough for 1.5v LLC1 and not get crazy hot.
Edited by Reikoji - 4/24/17 at 4:41pm
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OK, I have got my return stuff for my two kits of F4-3600C16D-16GTZR and will ship them back tomorrow. That will of course leave me without my Ryzen rig until I get a replacement. I am thinking of ordering a 32MB kit - F4-3600C16Q-32GTZR.

As I am starting from scratch, however, I want to consider alternatives. What would you order, knowing all you have learned at this point, including what 32 GB DRAM kits have been the most successful in reaching at least 3200 MHz.

I could even opt to go with a 16 GB kit, and get quicker speeds and timing, although I'm leaning toward 32 GB.

Please let me know your suggestions quickly, as I want to order as early as this evening (I have my trusty old laptop, but I want my Ryzen!).
Edited by CeltPC - 4/24/17 at 5:24pm
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OK, I have got my return stuff for my two kits of F4-3600C16D-16GTZR and will ship them back tomorrow. That will of course leave me without my Ryzen rig until I get a replacement. I am thinking of ordering a 32MB kit - F4-3600C16Q-32GTZR.

As I am starting from scratch, however, I want to consider alternatives. What would you order, knowing all you have learned at this point, including what 32 BG DRAM kits have been the most successful in reaching at least 3200 MHz.

I could even opt to go with a 16GB kit, and get quicker speeds and timing, although I'm leaning toward 32GB.

Please let me know your suggestions quickly, as I want to order as early as this evening (I have my trusty old laptop, but I want my Ryzen!).

! But you are supposed to shy away from those RBG kits, unless you don't care about controlling the lighting on them. Which is a limiter cuz Gskil doesn't seem to have 32gb kits for 3600 that arent RBG...

May update is around the corner, so a 32gb+ kit at 3200 may suffice, would just have to ease the timings for a short time.
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Yep, that was me. Mine died 1 day after I installed the gskill rgb software. So I thought this was the killer! Someone else here ended this theory cause he had same issues but didn't install the gskill sw. Probably he used Aura. But if I'm right gskill rgb software is based on /working with Aura?!.

This make sense to me.

I first installed the Trident Z RGB software, then the Aura Sync app, and got a lot of erratic behaviours, random lightning patterns and crashes in both programs.

Now my motherboard lights (and the AMD cooler lighting strip) don't work anymore, just the RAM.

Perhaps some Linux users who wouldn't be able to run the LED software can chime in with whether they have had any failed DRAM with similar symptoms.
     
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! But you are supposed to shy away from those RBG kits, unless you don't care about controlling the lighting on them. Which is a limiter cuz Gskil doesn't seem to have 32gb kits for 3600 that arent RBG...

May update is around the corner, so a 32gb+ kit at 3200 may suffice, would just have to ease the timings for a short time.

But it's so shiny and blingy!! rolleyes.gif

It is a conundrum, and I am hoping (as I was when I purchased 3600 MHz memory in the first place) to be able to get to 3200 MHz and maybe 3600 MHz with the May update. I don't want to use BCLK clocking because of card issues.

I do wish Asus / G.Skill would get together for a fix if it really is the RGB Aura software that is causing SPD corruption. I suspect it it is, but have not seen a definitive proof yet, it is close to a "smoking gun" thing at this point.
Edited by CeltPC - 4/24/17 at 5:47pm
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But it's so shiny and blingy!! rolleyes.gif

It is a conundrum, and I am hoping (as I was when I purchased 3600 MHz memory in the first place) to be able to get to 3200 MHz and maybe 3600 MHz with the May update. I don't want to use BCLK clocking because of card issues.

Could go for broke and get a 16gb 4266mhz kit. Will run 3200 as low as 12cas so ive seen.
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If may doesn't fix this. I am seriously done with ryzen. I have issues with corsair ram that are identical to review kits on the other c6h now lol. Thank god x299 is around the corner.
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I just bought Thaiphoon Burner but it does not read the good stick reliably, when it did I saved the "HEX dump" to a file. I have tried writing to the other identical but broken stick but no joy. There are some options I dont understand in the writing process too. (left and right adresses?)  

Perhaps that updated version the developer gave someone here might work better.

 

Interestingly I got some response from CPUZ after one attempt. The slot 4 was previously blank but showed some data (with some errors and no capacity).

Unsurprisingly it did not work, lol.

The bios still has a blank page for the duff stick.

 Back to plan "A" RMA.....

 

 

 

For a moment I had hope...  I think CPUz was just reporting what it found bouncing  around the SMbus after the write attempt. Another time I tried showed data on the wrong slot. No.1.

At that point I gave up. 


Edited by dorbot - 4/24/17 at 6:00pm
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