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Originally Posted by majestynl View Post

@elmor

Im testing ZenStates 0.2.2 and below some first feedbacks from me!
I was running my Pstates OC profile (4.Ghz) when installed:

Installation was easy and without any issues! After install i opened the app and saw all Pstates where
already Filled in. The 40x multiplier & 1.35v is same value what i use in my P0.

Nothing special here, but didn't saw it getting kicked into P1 or P2 as applied in ZenStates. So i boot into bios to see what happened there. I saw nothing was changed from my own Profile. P1 or P2 was at default. (no values from Zenstates).

I changed P0 to default in bios and logged back into windows. I didn't see anything different. Speeds where just like on stock (3.6ghz). So i opened Zen-states and Applied the Pstates there again, immediately Multiplier 40 kicked in but the silly high-voltage issue did show his face also in this situation mad.gif.. Damn 1.6v on vcore..! Same thing when boot training failed and it goes in to recovery mode.

Screenshot:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Im now going to try suggestion from @gupsterg : Disable Core Performance Boost. Lets see if this can help not getting the High voltages issue.

I noticed if I change p2 it always downclocks 200 less than I set it. When I open the app, it shows 22x for p2, but downclocks to 2000. If i set to 20x, it goes to 1800.
post #11532 of 17504
Not a bad cooling Round Up specific to Ryzen in the 1500x, 1600x, and 1800x flavors - but applicable to the whole line-up of course:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwxhrKGY-c8

Helpful for those who are contemplating a build or an upgrade in your cooling capacity.
post #11533 of 17504
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Originally Posted by orlfman View Post

if you have XFR enabled, then its most likely caused by it. the constant fluctuation between idle to any load causes the frequency to go from downclocked straight to the max XFR speed for your processor, which consequently means going from like 0.900v's straight to 1.45 - 1.5v's. those voltage spikes helps cause the sudden surge in temps.

you won't notice this with a constant load, like gaming. your voltage will also be averaging less as well since its not spiking as much. while more light workloads, like doing things that cause you to go from a relativity idle state, to any load, even a light load, will cause the spikes. such as running firefox, foobar2000, and steam, and cycling through them, will cause a frequent spikes and a high average voltage, not just peak. such as 1.4v's average for over an hour if you're doing a lot of idle - any load type workloads. all thanks to XFR.

the behavior of XFR from what i've noticed from reading around appears to be altered by which motherboard you are using. i know one guy here, and a few i talked to on reddit with gigabyte boards which have less high temp spiking, frequency spikes, and voltage spikes compared to the crosshair. well, not necessary spikes as more aggressiveness.

I know this but im OCed at 3.8 1.199v lol.
    
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I know this but im OCed at 3.8 1.199v lol.
then that's weird. maybe windows running stuff in the background. creators update has caused a lot of funkyness. like pauses at max load.
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Originally Posted by majestynl View Post

@elmor

Im testing ZenStates 0.2.2 and below some first feedbacks from me!
I was running my Pstates OC profile (4.Ghz) when installed:

Installation was easy and without any issues! After install i opened the app and saw all Pstates where
already Filled in. The 40x multiplier & 1.35v is same value what i use in my P0.

Nothing special here, but didn't saw it getting kicked into P1 or P2 as applied in ZenStates. So i boot into bios to see what happened there. I saw nothing was changed from my own Profile. P1 or P2 was at default. (no values from Zenstates).

I changed P0 to default in bios and logged back into windows. I didn't see anything different. Speeds where just like on stock (3.6ghz). So i opened Zen-states and Applied the Pstates there again, immediately Multiplier 40 kicked in but the silly high-voltage issue did show his face also in this situation mad.gif.. Damn 1.6v on vcore..! Same thing when boot training failed and it goes in to recovery mode.

Screenshot:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Im now going to try suggestion from @gupsterg : Disable Core Performance Boost. Lets see if this can help not getting the High voltages issue.

I'm wondering if the zenstates app is using the voltage offset you have set in the BIOS or if it's applying an auto setting of some sort.
Either way definitely disable core performance boost. It throws to many variables in trying to obtain a stable overclock.
post #11536 of 17504
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I get cold boot problems every single time with BIOS 0083. Every...single....time. Even at 2933. It's driving me nuts! Plus I can't seem to make my RAM jive at 1T. It's 2T every time for some reason. If this was my main rig, I'd have put it through a wall already. biggrin.gif

The cold boot thing is annoying, and 100% reproducible, other than that 0083 is a 2T bios. If your ram is 1T, you can use 0082. I'm happy with 0083 since it managed to get my F4-3200C16D-16GTZR to 2933Mhz instead of 2400Mhz, without any bclk magic. I can also boot with 3200Mhz but it will crash on windows. Related to that, would you guys recommend higher voltage in this case?


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The cold boot thing is annoying, and 100% reproducible, other than that 0083 is a 2T bios. If your ram is 1T, you can use 0082. I'm happy with 0083 since it managed to get my F4-3200C16D-16GTZR to 2933Mhz instead of 2400Mhz, without any bclk magic. I can also boot with 3200Mhz but it will crash on windows. Related to that, would you guys recommend higher voltage in this case?


Cheers!

I had to increase SOC to 1.1 and add a little more vcore to get 3200 stable. Using Samsung B-dies.
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I had to increase SOC to 1.1 and add a little more vcore to get 3200 stable. Using Samsung B-dies.

Cool, will try to increase soc, and add some more volts to the ram. I know that the 16D ram I have isn't Samsung B do, from what I read it's either Hynix, or Samsung-E.
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Asus guys,
I've still got a problem not answered about temps. I am running at 3.95ghz 1.39v LLC 3 with a corsair h100i and noctua fans. Stress testing it gets me two temperatures . CPU tctl 90C and cpu tdie 70C (which I know is supposed to be 20C less and supposedly the REAL temp) But my motherboard Aura set for temp is ALWAYS red, because even during idle it is using the tctl temp of about 50C instead of the tdie, so it never goes yellow or green. Aura is obviously reading the wrong cpu temp, or is there a way to fix this. Also, will my cpu throttle or shut off at 95 tctl, which is really only 75C?? Somehow you need to fix the dual temps the mobo is using the wrong one, or at least in bios make a way where we can set it so the temps are both the same, real, and the 20C lower number just like the non-x chips do. This also jacks up the fans to way to loud even on silent because once again the mobo software thinks the cpu is 20C hotter than it is.

oh this is why if i set sensemiskew disabled on 1700 (non-x) my cpu above 75C is down
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Not a bad cooling Round Up specific to Ryzen in the 1500x, 1600x, and 1800x flavors - but applicable to the whole line-up of course:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwxhrKGY-c8

Helpful for those who are contemplating a build or an upgrade in your cooling capacity.

Thanks for the link thumb.gif
And for those who closed it instantly seeing it's a 26-minute video, here's the corresponding article:
https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/amd_ryzen_5_7_cpu_cooler_round_up/1
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