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post #11811 of 17483
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Originally Posted by CeltPC View Post

To be honest I have never experienced a failed bios flash. Do you have the EUFI version you were trying to change to on a USB? Have you renamed it C6H.cap?

Just renamed it
post #11812 of 17483
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Originally Posted by Reikoji View Post

you probably havent used EZ flash in windows to update your bios either redface.gif I blacklisted that method myself long ago when i first laid eyes on it.

what's the alternative?
post #11813 of 17483
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Originally Posted by alucardis666 View Post

what's the alternative?

Flashing from bios. The EZ flash in bios is the normal approach. Flashback while some like to use that as the main method is an emergency approach.

Many silly things can go wrong in windows, the ez flash program there should be avoided.
post #11814 of 17483
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Originally Posted by Reikoji View Post

it doesnt matter that there are still 2 temperatures, as long as the tctl changed. You can just ignore the tdie reading.

AH, thanks, I see your point. Running IBT maximum used to report 93C tctl, now it reports 10C less or 83C tctl and 63 tdie.
I can see if it will now not shut down in IBT at 4ghz, but it still is silly even if this works because I think the REAL temp is probably
73C during IBT Maximum, so the offset just fakes it 10C lower. I would think faking it 20C lower would be ideal and real, but then
again who knows, I could be burning up my chip if it is really at 93C, but having a corsair h100i and using 1.4v or so everyone
is around 73C stress testing, 63C would be way too good for that cooler and 93C is way to bad for it. The REAL temp has to be somewhere
between 73C and 93C, but just arbitrarily setting it to say 83C is not reality or useful I really would just like to know what my real temperature
is. When I had the 1700 overclocked to 3.9ghz with the same voltage and Wraith cooler, I could feel the bottom of the heatsink
and it was very hot to touch but not burning, so I knew the temperature reported was real. Well you can't touch a waterblock AIO
and tell anything unfortunately. So everyone is just guessing at what their 1800X temperature is? I find that hard to believe. Doesn't @chew or @elmor
know the proper offset to get the REAL temperature, or is what I am doing with 280 instead of 272 and getting 10C lower the REAL temperature?

P.S. I assume even if I change skew and see my cpu as 83C, but in reality it is 93C or 103C, the cpu will shut down and protect itself regardless of what I set skew at and see in Hwinfo, right? I'm not gonna burn up the chip by doing this as long as I don't go over 1.45v right?
Edited by hotstocks - 4/26/17 at 8:00pm
post #11815 of 17483
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Originally Posted by hotstocks View Post

AH, thanks, I see your point. Running IBT maximum used to report 93C tctl, now it reports 10C less or 83C tctl and 63 tdie.
I can see if it will now not shut down in IBT at 4ghz, but it still is silly even if this works because I think the REAL temp is probably
73C during IBT Maximum, so the offset just fakes it 10C lower. I would think faking it 20C lower would be ideal and real, but then
again who knows, I could be burning up my chip if it is really at 93C, but having a corsair h100i and using 1.4v or so everyone
is around 73C stress testing, 63C would be way too good for that cooler and 93C is way to bad for it. The REAL temp has to be somewhere
between 73C and 93C, but just arbitrarily setting it to say 83C is not reality or useful I really would just like to know what my real temperature
is. When I had the 1700 overclocked to 3.9ghz with the same voltage and Wraith cooler, I could feel the bottom of the heatsink
and it was very hot to touch but not burning, so I knew the temperature reported was real. Well you can't touch a waterblock AIO
and tell anything unfortunately. So everyone is just guessing at what their 1800X temperature is? I find that hard to believe. Doesn't @chew or @elmor
know the proper offset to get the REAL temperature, or is what I am doing with 280 instead of 272 and getting 10C lower the REAL temperature?

you can keep going on the offset, 280 was just the amount that put my specific tctl idle reading at like 27c or so
Edited by Reikoji - 4/26/17 at 8:01pm
post #11816 of 17483
Well I don't just want some arbitrarily lower tctl. I want the REAL tctl or cpu temp.
And not only is there those two cpu temps, but a third cpu temp from the Asus mobo which is 5C higher than tctl now,
it is at 86C where tcl old was 93C , tcl now with offset 81C. So maybe the Asus 86C is the real temp?
Edited by hotstocks - 4/26/17 at 8:04pm
post #11817 of 17483
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Originally Posted by hotstocks View Post

Well I don't just want some arbitrarily lower tctl. I want the REAL tctl or cpu temp.

I think you can do it this way. Disable sense mi skew and then whatever your Tdie shows is probably your real temp! record that and then alter the enabled sensemi skew offset to match. I may be wrong however.
post #11818 of 17483
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Originally Posted by alucardis666 View Post

what's the alternative?
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Originally Posted by Reikoji View Post

Flashing from bios. The EZ flash in bios is the normal approach. Flashback while some like to use that as the main method is an emergency approach.

Many silly things can go wrong in windows, the ez flash program there should be avoided.

Yes indeed, always avoid flashing from Windows. It can and does work, but can and does mess up as well. As Reikoji said, you can use the EZ Flash feature from within the UEFI. You can also use the flashback method, by putting your USB drive in the proper USB port - the one outlined in white, and pressing the blue button until it begins flashing. Read your manual, if you are not sure what I mean. Be patient on the second method, and wait for the blue button to stop flashing.
post #11819 of 17483
So I'm in bios recovery now since restarting and it won't detect my flash drive...
post #11820 of 17483
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Originally Posted by alucardis666 View Post

So I'm in bios recovery now since restarting and it won't detect my flash drive...

Last i heard this issue, a reformatting of it fixed it. But do you have your flash drive in the USB 2.0 slot with the white box around it? or, either of the USB 2.0 slots since you're in bios atm, but white box preferable.
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