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Nope thats right. You can trim those if you want but i dont think those joints/pins are going to cause issues. Trimming it won't affect anything so if youd like to you can. Im only using the center portion and it works just fine.

Thank you redface.gif

This is just temporary as I have just ordered the EK-FB ASUS C6H RGB Monoblock - Nickel

biggrin.gif I have GAS! Gear Acquisition Syndrome

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Thank you redface.gif

This is just temporary as I have just ordered the EK-FB ASUS C6H RGB Monoblock - Nickel

biggrin.gif I have GAS! Gear Acquisition Syndrome

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I would as well i just don't feel like talking off my mobo for a 3rd time and a second build. My VRMs dont get too hot anyways i still have PLENTY of thermal headroom so I'm not worried. Plus it will definitely heat up the water even more so its fine so far.
    
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I would as well i just don't feel like talking off my mobo for a 3rd time and a second build. My VRMs dont get too hot anyways i still have PLENTY of thermal headroom so I'm not worried. Plus it will definitely heat up the water even more so its fine so far.

Yeah it's the first time I go for a monoblock, but I still have lots of headroom, using two 360 rads just for the cpu.
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Posting my results:

...
  • Setting the DRAM voltage and boot voltage to 1.3 yields a 1.35 voltage in practice
  • The RAM worked at 2666 with the SPD's timings 14-14-14-34
  • It took a while to discover this, but the RAM works at 2933 and 3200 but timings must be relaxed to 18-18-18-38.
  • With my settings, voltages displayed in windows when the system is under load are: CPU 1.373v, SOC 1.113v, DRAM 1.351v, VDDP 0.959v, 1.8 PPL 1.940v
  • CPU temp shows as 81C under sustained load, should be off by +20C due to being an X model and the wonky temp reporting
...

I have read here somewhere that the calibration of the CPU temperature sensor diodes (and perhaps also the board sensors) changes if V_PPL is changed from 1.8V. If so, then your actual CPU temperature may be difficult to know. I haven't yet seen anyone address the question of what this might do to affect safe shutdown in the CPU. But then, we are only 11850 posts into this morass, so perhaps in the fullness of time we will find out.

Retroactive Edit: PLL V affects calibration with Sense MI Skew enabled, but not when disabled. Hence it may not be a bias voltage for the sensor diodes.
Edited by kaseki - 4/27/17 at 6:00am
     
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Yeah it's the first time I go for a monoblock, but I still have lots of headroom, using two 360 rads just for the cpu.

Yea thats plenty for a cpu only, I have a 240 and 360 for cpu/gpu and even that gives me fantastic gpu temps.
    
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For me my tctl on BOTH the Aorus 5 and Crosshair VI was correct, idling at 27°C with a water temp of 22°C right now (can go lower on idle i got chrome open though) and under realbench reaches around 50°C with a water temp around 28°C.
Problem with Sense Skew is not idle temps, but load temps. Sense Skew is not a straight offset, but some kind of curve being applied. I made my CPU crash Code 8 due to overheating at real temperatures that should cause a thermal shutdown, all the while skewed Tctl read a measly 66 C (should have been over 110 C).
post #11877 of 17677
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Originally Posted by hotstocks View Post

I have been using sense skew enabled or auto and IBT does code 8 after 3-30 minutes when temp gets to 73/93C area so I thought it was thermal shut down since AMD says 70C is thermal shut down and both tdie and tctl are over 70C in IBT when this happens. But are you saying for an 1800X at 4ghz I should DISABLE Sense Skew? Is that my problem?
What I'm saying is that you got a Code 8 and we do not know if it's due to temps or other things. wink.gif

What does your Socket temp read in these situations? Is it over 70 - 75 C? Well cooled it should stay lower than 60 C while running ITB AVX (currently running just that at 49 C socket temp).

You can disable Sense Skew to get a better feel for real CPU temps, except for those dreaded dynamic offsets that happen on top of the fixed one. I didn't check yet if Ryzen does hard throttling (to x5.5) in OC mode before thermal shutdown, or I just forgot the results. Will check again and report back.
Edited by Timur Born - 4/27/17 at 2:32am
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That IMO is as fast as Ryzen boots. You have 1x mobo boot loop, some have more wink.gif .
I had the highest number of boot loops using Flare X dimms, go figure. Do people only enable fast boot, or do they also change boot logo/screen timeout along with it? The default boot logo timeout is 3 s and the default boot screen timeout is 5 s, so you may want to change that, too.
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Problem with Sense Skew is not idle temps, but load temps. Sense Skew is not a straight offset, but some kind of curve being applied. I made my CPU crash Code 8 due to overheating at real temperatures that should cause a thermal shutdown, all the while skewed Tctl read a measly 66 C (should have been over 110 C).

For me all the way up until 50°C tctl my tdie shows 30°C so up till then its a 20°C offset for my case.
    
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Elmor wrote that AMD does not allow a straight offset. No idea if this means "as in prohibits" or as in "technically impossible".

And Tdie is just Tctl - 20 in HWinfo, has nothing to do with Sense Skew and is *not* a sensor.
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