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post #12231 of 16826
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Originally Posted by Naeem View Post

it turned out that my g.skill tridentz rgb 32gb 3000mhz c16 ram kit is based on hynix chips frown.gif

Don't despair, from what I heard on that Robert Hallock video, improving results with Hynix chips is one of the focuses of the May Update from AMD.
post #12232 of 16826
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Originally Posted by finalheaven View Post

@elmor

Out of curiosity, how or why was ProcODT = 53.3 ohm chosen to be the default? 53.3 will be the default for future bioses right?

with my Hynix mem, I had to put it on 60 to get the best out of it.
post #12233 of 16826
Hmmm... so I'll just stick to BIOS 1002?

BIOS 1106 is right now available under Windows 10 64bit. However it's not available under 8.1 64Bit and 7 64bit, which is funny because earlier today when I checked it was available under 8.1 and 7 64bit but not Windows 10 64bit!
post #12234 of 16826
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Originally Posted by hotstocks View Post

Damn, some bios settings should not be there or be explained and NOT change critical readouts. I couldn't believe that my 1800X would thermal shut off at 4ghz and be 73/93C depending on what you belive Well I figured I spent $200 on a Corsair H100i and Noctua fans, so might as well spend another $12 on 2 applications of Grizzly Kryonaut (coming this weekend to replace my 5 year old Arctic 5 I used). Then all of a sudden I decided to just put PLL back to 1.8v default since mine was at 1.9v from some suggestion ages ago. Well guess what, BAM! my temps were instantly 10C less, to 63/83C on full IBT test. So moral of the story, don't F@CK with PLL. All that said, my 1800X still won't do IBT without shutdown at 4.0ghz, no matter how high I go with volts (went to 1.45 LLC 3), but it happily does 3.975mhz at 1.40 v LLC 3. Kind of ridiculous that you cant get 25 more mhz going from 1.40 to 1.45v, but I guess that is part of the insanity of this system. And I agree with all the frustrated guys, this was released 3 months to early and even 20 year overclockers like myself are getting pissed off because you change one inocuous setting and it messes everything else up. Don't even get me started with why the F@CK we need two fake temperatures instead of one real one, or why setting BCLK at 100 fluctuates between 99 and 101, it is just ridiculous. If I didn't enjoy building and debugging rigs, if I was a normal consumer, I would be furious. I mean I even had an 1800X that would just turn off in IBT STOCK, STOCK 1002 bios and STOCK Settings. That is just unacceptable. Now I have things dialed in pretty good, but I still get random pauses for seconds (and yes I increased NVME sleep time, which you shouldn't have to do) and I also get one or two threads running at 87-100% for no reason at all, like I am idling and in task manager no process is over 6% cpu, yet I have a thread or two maxed out? There are serious issues and anyone who asks me for a recomendation on a new build, I would tell them just get an Intel 6 core. My build is NOT really any cheaper, by the time I spent $300 on this mobo, $200 on 16gb of decent ram, ect. Yeah, big deal if the 1800X is $100 cheaper than an Intel 6 core at this point, it is not worth the headaches. Now I can see an argument for the cheap 6 core Ryzens with a cheap mobo and cheap ram for Joe Sixpack, but that is not how I build a computer. I build the best every time there is a significant leap. I thought an 1800X at 3.9-4ghz would be a significant leap over my 4.7ghz 2500k with 2133 cas 9 ram, but guess what, in everyday stuff like browsing, video, and games, it is no different with my 1080 then the Ryzen. Sure when games start using 8 cores/16 threads the Ryzen will start winning, but right now the clockspeed is to slow, I get the exact same single core Cinebench score of 162 on both systems. And I don't encode, twitch stream or any of that **** except on a rare occassion. So basically I sidegraded. I was really hoping Ryzen would be faster in games because I have so much crap in the background like browsers, chat programs, monitoring apps, ect. But I really haven't seen any speed improvements at all except when I do silly things like run 4 different virus scans at the same time while Acronis backing up my drive. Then Ryzen is great, when you are trying to use it as two seperate computers, but if you use your computer as one computer in a normal to power user fashion, Ryzens slow clock speeds just won't make your system faster because it has more cores. Hoping Ryzen 2 can get to 5ghz or it is just going to remain in Intels shadow. Intel is pushing up their release to Summer and I bet they will have cheaper 6 and 8 cores then, so Ryzen has a 2-3 month window to get its **** together or be back as the slow underdog again, and they aren't winning over any enthusiasts with this mess of a launch. I have a ****load of overclocking knowledge and experience, but I don't think you should need Chew level experience to get a consumer product to just work within an hour. It took me a month to get happy with my rig, but I still really am not due to the pauses and random full cpu thread use that is not really happening.

Do you really think we will read this wall of unformated text? use some paragraph smile.gif
post #12235 of 16826
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Originally Posted by madweazl View Post

Depends how far you want to go smile.gif

My settings for 3500 at 3.9ghz
Vcore 1.425
LLC 3
BCLK 119.4 (whatever the corresponding strap was for 3500)
DRAM and DRAM vboot 1.425
SOC 1.156
PLL 1.90
Timings 16-16-16-16-36
VDDP .94 (I think)
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I'll try this!
post #12236 of 16826
Observations on P-states (CBS):

When P2 is set to custom then P2's VID is used for booting! My P2 VID is 0.9 V (0.825 V + 0.075 V) and that's what shown in Hardware Monitor of BIOS setup. I can imagine that this can cause boot problems with some people, seems to work with my 4.0 + 3300-CL14 OC, though.

P3 (and higher, I suppose) seem to be ignored, I only see P0 - P2 frequencies appear in Windows.
post #12237 of 16826
So you've eliminated some major bugs, but I can't overclock my CPU any more using the multiplier. I set it to 37.5 or 38 and it keeps booting up at 3GHz. This was working just fine in 0082. What have you guys done!

Also, my first Ryzen chip could never boot my DDR4-3200MHz CL14 Trident Z RAM at 3200MHz, and it still can't with this bios revision, either. What gives?
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Crucial MX100 Samsung DVD AMD Ryzen stock HSF Win 10 x64 
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post #12238 of 16826
1106 ready on asus website win 10 64bit
anyone want to try this bios?
post #12239 of 16826
I have updated to the new bios that landed on Asus website today and now none of my overclocking settings will apply, does anyone know what's going on, my fan profiles will apply but any overclock settings won't stick, using ryzen master will apply an overclock but nothing else will. Can anybody help
post #12240 of 16826
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Originally Posted by gupsterg View Post

NP smile.gif , we must in differing timezones wink.gif . I forgot to add Ryzen Power Plan zip to my OP but here it is.


Ryzen_Balanced_Power_Plan.zip 47k .zip file

I get that a lot, being in the middle of the Pacific. smile.gif You can see my current time in the bios screenshots. So, I wasn't able to work on this particular build today, but I do have one issue with my personal build that maybe you can help with. It's been rather frustrating and I can imagine that it's something simple I've missed. I have an R5 1600. On bios 0081.

I have my Pstate overclock set up, P0 with an updated FID in bios, untouched P1/2, offset +, and generally every other setting set to what it should be (as far as I know, anyway). I've been running ZenStates 0.2.2 and fine tuning from there, which is great, but the one problem I'm having is that my P2 Vcore doesn't budge. Even idling at the set P2 frequency, my Vcore is stuck at the P0 value, 1.4v. I've tested so many different combinations of settings, but nothing I try gets the idle Vcore down to the 0.9v +offset I have set for P2.

I have some screenshots of my bios and of HWinfo, so hopefully there is something I'm not seeing. Thanks.








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