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Originally Posted by Raspo View Post

Here new problem with G.Skill F4-3866C18D-16GTZR. After installing 1107 and reboot the light on RAM-stick into Dimm_A2 is failed. Dimm_B2 works fine. Timings @3200 only 16-16-16-39-75-1T again, but i wonder, because it's B-Die's. Should be 14-14-14-36 like so many guys here?


At risk of going off half cocked, I think it may be time to buy Thaiphoon Burner and stop using Aura or GSKill software.

You should forcibly and with extreme prejudice terminate all traces of both programs including services, running tasks, folders and scheduled tasks. Do this manually. The uninstallers dont uninstall the services. They remain, apparently active, interfering with the SMBUS and slowly killing your RAMs SPD tables.

 

Then used Thaiphoon Burner to rewrite SPD tables from the online database.

 

After uninstalling, I reinstalled the GSkill software just to rest the RGB to default then forcibly uninstalled again.

 

Probably a good idea to use Thaiphoon again after that.


Edited by dorbot - 4/29/17 at 9:28am
post #12592 of 16756
In every other aspect of my life I am sublimely patient, but when itcomes to my PC running at full clock my obsessive achiles heel kicks in 😁.. The fact that many other users on here seem to be running my exact build @3200 MHz only makes the desire to achieve silicon success all the higher..

Hoping @Elmor sees tgis and has the magic answers..
post #12593 of 16756
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Originally Posted by crossbone View Post

Yup, just tried. Also no effect.
Funny thing is. I also have another GSKILL non RGB Samsung B-Die Kit at hand and a 1700X.

So i will now bring up a new theory:

3200 strap is dependant on luck of the draw when buying a C6H Motherboard. Some C6H may make it, others don't. (Not CPU dependant)

What do you think about this? Anyone with two C6H who can confirm or deny this?
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Originally Posted by wolfpack122 View Post

I'm sure @gupsterg tested with two 1700 CPUs and one of the two would work with 3200 and the other wouldn't on the same C6H board.
Lets ask him for more details when he gets back.
For the timings, you will have to set them manually.

He tried two different CPUs and one would and the other wouldn't. HOWEVER, i could not get 3200mhz reliably and only increasing soc to 1.15v made it boot at all (albeit needing to hit reset once for it to work), talking cold boot of course.

With 1107 same RAM, same mobo, same CPU i can boot at 3200mhz (set in straps as well) with soc at 1.05 without needing to hit reset. Q code will go red, yellow, red, yellow, white, green then boot. It's also a few seconds faster then before.

Correction: Needs 1.10v for soc. I left it on 1.05, did a cold boot after 5mins and got an f9 then a boot loop and subsequent training then got stuck to default settings. Hopefully soc fixes it and its not an 1107 BIOS issue haha.
Edited by bluej511 - 4/29/17 at 9:25am
    
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Im in the same boat just with a different kit and different strap.
I would just wait for this supposedly magical may uppdate rather than stress your wits about it.
Memory support seam to go back and forth from bios to bios anyways.

Other notes, i have just noticed higher temps with this new bios. Maybe it is better, but for one who wont overclock untill the "****" is sorted
I guess i wont notice much.
Then again my board seams to work the other way to most here, giving me way higher voltages than what is set, compared to lower ones.
So maybe its just one of them wierdos..

Anyways Thanks @elmor for feeding us updates, however smal they might be. Nothing worse than feeling neglected.
In every other aspect of my life I am sublimely patient, but when itcomes to my PC running at full clock my obsessive achiles heel kicks in 😁.. The fact that many other users on here seem to be running my exact build @3200 MHz only makes the desire to achieve silicon success all the higher..

Hoping @Elmor sees this and has the magic answers..
post #12595 of 16756
First test results Bios 1107:

  • 1800x
  • Pstates OC @ 4Ghz (A0)
  • Memory 3200mhz


Im still testing this bios but i noticed some strange behaviors with this bios. After setting up my stable settings i used with bios version 0081 i immediately recognized instability with same vcore etc etc. After investigating HWiNFO i noticed my max clock-speed was higher then 4ghz. I enter the bios and saw my clock-speed at 4024mhz, BCLK was above 100Mhz rolleyes.gif Very strange, cause my settings where the same as allways. After some playing around i found the setting who was causing my BCLK was raising automatically.

Setting Ai Overclock Tuner on "auto" is raising my BCLK, when i set it on "Default" its normal again (99.8Mhz) Below some screenshots, on the right side you can see the difference in Clock-speeds Freq and BCLK Frequency. All settings are the same, just switching between "auto" and "default"!
And rebooting to bios.

Ai Overclock Tuner on "auto": Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Ai Overclock Tuner on "default": Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I never noticed this behavior before, so i could be wrong. Can somebody confirm this ?
Edited by majestynl - 4/29/17 at 9:23am
post #12596 of 16756
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Originally Posted by majestynl View Post

First test results Bios 1107:

  • 1800x
  • Pstates OC @ 4Ghz (A0)
  • Memory 3200mhz


Im still testing this bios but i noticed some strange behaviors with this bios. After setting up my stable settings i used with bios version 0081 i immediately recognized instability with same vcore etc etc. After investigating HWiNFO i noticed my max clock-speed was higher then 4ghz. I enter the bios and saw my clock-speed at 4024mhz, BCLK was above 100Mhz rolleyes.gif Very strange, cause my settings where the same as allways. After some playing around i found the setting who was causing my BCLK was raising automatically.

Setting Ai Overclock Tuner on "auto" is raising my BCLK, when i set it on "Default" its normal again (99.8Mhz) Below some screenshots, on the right side you can see the difference in Clock-speeds Freq and BCLK Frequency. All settings are the same, just switching between "auto" and "default"!
And rebooting to bios.

Ai Overclock Tuner on "auto": Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Ai Overclock Tuner on "default": Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I never noticed this behavior before, so i could be wrong. Can somebody confirm this ?

Very strange indeed, first thing i did was manually set my bclk to 100mhz (99.8 is annoying in Hwinfo, ocd kicking in haha) so i wouldnt be able to tell you, i did notice my vcore dipping slightly below what it used to so this may be another BIOS that needs slightly more vcore.

Honestly just set it to 100mhz manually and if it solves your problem so be it. You haven't flashed to 0003 by any chance did you?
    
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@crossbone

You state you have RGB RAM in post 12574, have you checked that SPD is not corrupt? ~4 days back (which is lotta pages redface.gif ) members had issues with RGB RAM SPD corruption due to how write is enabled on SPD for RGB change to work.

I can confirm all same HW, mobo FW, 2x R7 1700 tested, 1st did 2933MHz and 2nd 3200MHz. The 1st had stock SOC of ~0.838V, manually setting in UEFI of 0.825V and measuring = stock measurement of ~0.838V. It needed 0.900V in UEFI for 2933MHz. Increasing it to 1.050V and giving VCORE of +181mV did not make it function at 3200MHz.

So for me it was CPU swap out that made RAM work at 3200MHz, F4-3200C14D-16GTZ, Samsung B-Die, Single Rank.
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@crossbone

You state you have RGB RAM in post 12574, have you checked that SPD is not corrupt? ~4 days back (which is lotta pages redface.gif ) members had issues with RGB RAM SPD corruption due to how write is enabled on SPD for RGB change to work.

I can confirm all same HW, mobo FW, 2x R7 1700 tested, 1st did 2933MHz and 2nd 3200MHz. The 1st had stock SOC of ~0.838V, manually setting in UEFI of 0.825V and measuring = stock measurement of ~0.838V. It needed 0.900V in UEFI for 2933MHz. Increasing it to 1.050V and giving VCORE of +181mV did not make it function at 3200MHz.

So for me it was CPU swap out that made RAM work at 3200MHz, F4-3200C14D-16GTZ, Samsung B-Die, Single Rank.

Checked SPD as the RGB discussion here was running. Everything is fine on that front :-)

So it seems like I am really unlucky with my two CPUs, one 1700 and one 1700x both unable to run 3200 RAM. Guess I have to buy my third Ryzen processor and pray... :-/
post #12599 of 16756
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First test results Bios 1107:

  • 1800x
  • Pstates OC @ 4Ghz (A0)
  • Memory 3200mhz


Im still testing this bios but i noticed some strange behaviors with this bios. After setting up my stable settings i used with bios version 0081 i immediately recognized instability with same vcore etc etc. After investigating HWiNFO i noticed my max clock-speed was higher then 4ghz. I enter the bios and saw my clock-speed at 4024mhz, BCLK was above 100Mhz rolleyes.gif Very strange, cause my settings where the same as allways. After some playing around i found the setting who was causing my BCLK was raising automatically.

Setting Ai Overclock Tuner on "auto" is raising my BCLK, when i set it on "Default" its normal again (99.8Mhz) Below some screenshots, on the right side you can see the difference in Clock-speeds Freq and BCLK Frequency. All settings are the same, just switching between "auto" and "default"!
And rebooting to bios.

Ai Overclock Tuner on "auto": Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Ai Overclock Tuner on "default": Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I never noticed this behavior before, so i could be wrong. Can somebody confirm this ?
I sometimes see this as well. With BCLK set to Auto the bios reads it as 100.6, but it's 99.98 in Windows.
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@Wolfpack

There are several in this thread with varying results on CPU with same board.

1TM1 has 1800X Hynix M used same setup on C6H + Asus Prime X370 Prime 3200MHz, 1700X 2993MHz. Tyrluk buy another CPU gain 3200Mhz. Disasterpiec99 1700 3200MHz 1700X 2933MHz, same board/ram.

For some newer UEFIs killed 3200MHz, I got those posts recorded as well.

Then besides me, SpecChum swap CPU to gain 3200Mhz consistently.
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