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Update 2933MHz fails to post "cleanly".

Same settings as 3.8GHz/3200MHz 14-13-13-13-34-1T profile.

Only change memory strap to 2933MHz and save/repost/shutdown/remove power from PSU. Fail_CNT is 1.

Power on > "weird" chirp from speaker, Q-Code F9 > then off > 3x post loop with no power off > "clean beep post code", RAM not at 2933MHz, PState OC wiped as AMD CBS reset.

Checking notes past UEFI were ones pre 0079 ie Fail_CNT not 1.

So basically I am deemed "non optimal" by AMD "training". Fail_CNT retries settings, so you could be "non optimal" for a HCI MemTest, reference the table I posted as you can post successfully on a range of ProcODT.

@Targonis

I appreciate your time in commenting. Believe me I have spent more time tweaking/analyzing/stability testing this platform then using it. I am gonna up SOC a tad.

Stock SOC for this CPU is ~0.893V, setting manually as 0.875V and remeasuring on ProbeIt results in same. I need only 0.950V for "back to back" ~36hrs of various stability tests. I then went to 0.975V, am now going to 1.0V. Using even 1.05V in the past test graphic does not help with PSU powered down/up boot on 3200MHz.

I believe the FW still need some work.
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Originally Posted by gupsterg View Post

Update 2933MHz fails to post "cleanly".

Same settings as 3.8GHz/3200MHz 14-13-13-13-34-1T profile.

Only change memory strap to 2933MHz and save/repost/shutdown/remove power from PSU. Fail_CNT is 1.

Power on > "weird" chirp from speaker, Q-Code F9 > then off > 3x post loop with no power off > "clean beep post code", RAM not at 2933MHz, PState OC wiped as AMD CBS reset.

Checking notes past UEFI were ones pre 0079 ie Fail_CNT not 1.

So basically I am deemed "non optimal" by AMD "training". Fail_CNT retries settings, so you could be "non optimal" for a HCI MemTest, reference the table I posted as you can post successfully on a range of ProcODT.

@Targonis

I appreciate your time in commenting. Believe me I have spent more time tweaking/analyzing/stability testing this platform then using it. I am gonna up SOC a tad.

Stock SOC for this CPU is ~0.893V, setting manually as 0.875V and remeasuring on ProbeIt results in same. I need only 0.950V for "back to back" ~36hrs of various stability tests. I then went to 0.975V, am now going to 1.0V. Using even 1.05V in the past test graphic does not help with PSU powered down/up boot on 3200MHz.

I believe the FW still need some work.

I believe I have seen some people set SOC to 1.15 to get some things stable for the memory overclock. What are your DDR4 voltages set to?
post #12963 of 17742
I use VBOOT/VDIMM 1.35V in UEFI, ProbeIt point ~1.375V.

My thought is similar to The Stilt's, SOC does not need to be high as what many use. I believe it is currently masking an issue with FW.

I am not upset. Nor concerned. I am happy to use 3.8GHz/3200MHz with "Sleep/Resume" as I have 0 issues there for many days smile.gif . On a reboot it is rare issue. It is more of an issue when shutdown and boot (power active to PSU). Fully powered down rig and post is no go. My posts are just as info/feedback, etc.
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Well here's where I'm at with 0082.



Edited by alucardis666 - 5/1/17 at 11:44am
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Originally Posted by RaptormanUSMC View Post

Same experience I have. Using the 2933 strap ambient temperature doesn't matter it boots every time, only time I have f9-0d issues is while using the 3200 strap below 21C ambient temperature on cold boot.

Yea a bit weird not sure how thats fixable. Have you tried switching the LN2 jumper from off to on? Wonder if that would help at all I'm very tempted to try it. I'm at 3200mhz right now and even with SoC 1.0, even tried a single cold boot (although i only waited 2mins) and it booted up just fine. Ill have to see in the morning if it f9 fails again then ill know its down to temperatures. Absolutely nothing else has changed right now in my settings between 2933 and 3200.
    
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Yea a bit weird not sure how thats fixable. Have you tried switching the LN2 jumper from off to on? Wonder if that would help at all I'm very tempted to try it. I'm at 3200mhz right now and even with SoC 1.0, even tried a single cold boot (although i only waited 2mins) and it booted up just fine. Ill have to see in the morning if it f9 fails again then ill know its down to temperatures. Absolutely nothing else has changed right now in my settings between 2933 and 3200.
This is good info for those of us who can't hit 3200. I just have to remember your original post with the SoC info is on page 1295. This thread is nuts with updates!
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Yea a bit weird not sure how thats fixable. Have you tried switching the LN2 jumper from off to on? Wonder if that would help at all I'm very tempted to try it. I'm at 3200mhz right now and even with SoC 1.0, even tried a single cold boot (although i only waited 2mins) and it booted up just fine. Ill have to see in the morning if it f9 fails again then ill know its down to temperatures. Absolutely nothing else has changed right now in my settings between 2933 and 3200.

I haven't tried that yet, but I've only had one morning below 21C since I switched to 1107 bios, and it was 20C when I booted. I didn't have an issue then, I'll have to keep monitoring over the coming days if we get another morning below 21C.
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Same experience I have. Using the 2933 strap ambient temperature doesn't matter it boots every time, only time I have f9-0d issues is while using the 3200 strap below 21C ambient temperature on cold boot.

Yea a bit weird not sure how thats fixable. Have you tried switching the LN2 jumper from off to on? Wonder if that would help at all I'm very tempted to try it. I'm at 3200mhz right now and even with SoC 1.0, even tried a single cold boot (although i only waited 2mins) and it booted up just fine. Ill have to see in the morning if it f9 fails again then ill know its down to temperatures. Absolutely nothing else has changed right now in my settings between 2933 and 3200.

LN2 jumper is what it's named for. It raises and alters many voltages to aid in cold boot bug not cold booting at normal ambient temps. I really wouldn't advise using it 24/7 on normal ambient temps.
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I use VBOOT/VDIMM 1.35V in UEFI, ProbeIt point ~1.375V.

My thought is similar to The Stilt's, SOC does not need to be high as what many use. I believe it is currently masking an issue with FW.

I am not upset. Nor concerned. I am happy to use 3.8GHz/3200MHz with "Sleep/Resume" as I have 0 issues there for many days smile.gif . On a reboot it is rare issue. It is more of an issue when shutdown and boot (power active to PSU). Fully powered down rig and post is no go. My posts are just as info/feedback, etc.

Probably....this is why I am waiting on 1.0.0.5 to come out before I fight with it. On 0083 I was mostly stable at 2667 with a few issues, but was too busy to fight with it at the time, and at this point with the update expected in the next two weeks, I have too many other things going on to be worried. My system is stable. I am more annoyed at this wait for AMD to give Vega details and release than I am about not running at 3200.
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I use VBOOT/VDIMM 1.35V in UEFI, ProbeIt point ~1.375V.

My thought is similar to The Stilt's, SOC does not need to be high as what many use. I believe it is currently masking an issue with FW.

I am not upset. Nor concerned. I am happy to use 3.8GHz/3200MHz with "Sleep/Resume" as I have 0 issues there for many days smile.gif . On a reboot it is rare issue. It is more of an issue when shutdown and boot (power active to PSU). Fully powered down rig and post is no go. My posts are just as info/feedback, etc.

I feel as if the 1.0.0.4a is the culprit when booting up (power active to PSU). I never had boot problems prior to that. I know they improved memory latencies and such with 1.0.0.4a so I assume that may be the cause. Further, confirming this theory is that I believe raising the SOC even further to 1.0v will solve the boot up issues.

Elmor confirmed that boot from no power (PSU is turned off/unplugged) is a Ryzen issue because it will not save the DDR Volt settings when PSU is off/unplugged.
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