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Originally Posted by 4rcherz View Post

So for my peace of mind, Running the stress test my CPU is getting up to 80c but this is the +20 offset? As I have a 480mm and 2 x 240mm in my loop (with 980Ti OC as well)


I think that that is more correct value. What power draw u getting at those voltages?
post #13332 of 16797
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Originally Posted by leareynl View Post

With SenseMi skew disabled in the BIOS, Tdie will be the temp of your cpu, and Tctl will be at the +20 offset.

It should only be disabled if you're using a 1700 (or other non X CPU).
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post #13333 of 16797
quick question about xfr,
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It should only be disabled if you're using a 1700 (or other non X CPU).
after i flashed 1107 i disabled the skew because i read a post from elmor in this thread where he stated disabling it on x sku's, such as the 1700x, is fine as disable = amd default behavior.

with it disabled now its got me thinking. i wonder if that's the reason why i noticed a difference in my default average vcore with light loads with xfr enabled. its been staying under 1.4v's which has been refreshing. prior i was averaging 1.45v's before i flashed to 1107 and disabled the skew. i don't think gigabyte ever did any tweaks to the sense mi skew which is why i was noticing a big difference with xfr on my previous gaming 5 and the crosshair when it comes to light workloads.

i remember reading that amd stated the sensemi skew effects xfr behavior.

either that or its all been placebo for me and i don't know what i'm doing. i guess we can bother elmor again by asking if disabling the sensemi skew on x sku's like the 1800x is safe and what does it exactly do when disabled.
Edited by muffins - 5/3/17 at 12:41pm
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About ASUS Zenstate. Can anyone answer this?

I can see VIDs only clocking down fully (to 0.9V at 22x on parked cores) if I use the windows Balanced power plan.

I tried also the High performance power plan with a minimum 5% CPU state but it behaves pretty much like the Ryzen Balance power plan. Both leave one core at full speed at all times and all vcores at max or almost max.

Does anyone know a workaround for this? The CPU runs cooler if all cores can park. but I don't wanna use the balanced power plan cause it supposedly gives less performance due to slower VID frequency switching.

Actually, the only power plan that shows all 3 states properly seems to be the Balanced power plan.

I can see P1 clearly in HWinfo VIDs and clocks, while is nowhere to be seen while in High performance or Ryzen power plans, only P0 and P3 and some sort of P2 that doesn't make sense. (2600mhz)

The balance power plan uses P1 more often, as the CPU usage is medium in FL Studio playing a song.

EDIT: The balance power plan is a nono, CPU performance is compromised as FL studio shows a higher CPU usage while playing a song.

Another question would be. Is it better to keep a rather constant voltage as in the Ryzen balancd plan than going up and down with the volts? I can imagine some nice peaks internally from the VRM to the CPU when going from 2.36V to 0.9V at LLC4 so maybe after all is better if the voltages don't move as much.

Here with the balanced plan min vcore is 0.9V and max 2.36V, and with the ryzen plan VID stays at 1.363V (my desired max for 40Ghz), in both cases cores are parking to 1.999Mhz but all vcores stays at max on the ryzen power plan and one core always clocked fully to 3.999Mhz

This is all rather interesting.
Edited by SaccoSVD - 5/3/17 at 1:12pm
post #13335 of 16797
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Originally Posted by madweazl View Post

It should only be disabled if you're using a 1700 (or other non X CPU).

Nah there's no law stating that smile.gif
I disable it to be able to read the Tdie to be as true as possible.
If I enable it, it is all over the place.
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Originally Posted by leareynl View Post

With SenseMi skew disabled in the BIOS, Tdie will be the temp of your cpu, and Tctl will be at the +20 offset.

I have 1800x (i haven't changed any BIOS options for scew).
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I think that that is more correct value. What power draw u getting at those voltages?

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Originally Posted by SaccoSVD View Post

About ASUS Zenstate. Can anyone answer this?

I can see VIDs only clocking down fully (to 0.9V at 22x on parked cores) if I use the windows Balanced power plan.

.

I have no downclocking either and my system log of windows has these messages for each core in the log :



I am guessing this kind of stuff will be solved in 1.0.0.5 of Agesa.
post #13338 of 16797
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Originally Posted by leareynl View Post

I have no downclocking either and my system log of windows has these messages for each core in the log :



I am guessing this kind of stuff will be solved in 1.0.0.5 of Agesa.

If you enabled Cstates and your CPU multiplier and vcores are set to auto in the BIOS it should work.

Otherwise you might be using the high performance power plan with 100% min CPU state.

You should use the Ryzen power plan or the high perf power plan but with a min CPU state of 5% (which is the equivalent I think)

post #13339 of 16797
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Originally Posted by SaccoSVD View Post


You should use the Ryzen power plan or the high perf power plan but with a min CPU state of 5% (which is the equivalent I think)

Hmm I do not have the option Minimum Processor state.

post #13340 of 16797
Mmm interesting.

It seems like indeed is disabled from BIOS. What board is that? can you share your BIOS settings?

I'm assuming you could open zenstates and see the zenstates service running, no?
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