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Originally Posted by SaccoSVD View Post

Yep. smile.gif The AI suite was inducing a random crash.

Interesting.. I may need to play around with this! I've been using Fan Xpert but definitely want to switch over to BIOS control.
post #15682 of 17571
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Originally Posted by R71800XSS View Post

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Originally Posted by kev8

At this point, I think I can exclude RAM and VGA, and just have to RMA motherboard or CPU.

I have 4 doubts remaining (maybe only @elmor can answer?):

1) Since I swapped the HDD from previous PC, with Athlon II X3, is it possible that, in Ubuntu, the AMD microcode of the previous CPU messed up Ryzen CPU? Is the microcode rewritten to correct one each time I flashback a BIOS?
2) Is it possible that something PCIExpress has been messed up by VGA or on CPU?
3) Is it possible that psensor on ubuntu messed up motherboard when reading sensors?
4) Is it possible to have an explanation from ASUS BIOS guys of qcode 90 + VGA led? Does it refer to VGA, CPU/PCIE management, or RAM? (also to understand what part I have to RMA....)

Thank you in advance for possible answers, (if any)!
Sorry for long post.. and thank you for sharing your experiences, I am learning a lot..

1) No. In my case I had installed Ubuntu and w10 (two HDs) with Phenom II X4 and don't problems.
2) I don´t think it.
3) I don´t think it. I very much doubt that.
4) if Elmor wants reply to you (Although I know he is very busy always rolleyes.gif)...

I think about motherboards' error, code 90 is about "BDS (Boot Device Selection) phase started" (I have not idea about it..look like system boot don't found and mobo hangs in this code).

While I think the hardware is pretty immune from damage due to trying to boot some version of Linux, you need to consider these steps.
(a) Try to boot with an empty HDD and see if a POST-completed screen appears (should have ROG logo). If so press del and go into the BIOS and make sure it can detect the drive you are using.
(b) Ryzen support starts with kernel 4.10. Assuming (a) works, then a live DVD or live USB should be used to install the latest (17.04) Ubuntu. Then upgrade to kernel 4.10.something, probably 4.10.0-20 (depends on what software manager presents as ready for Ubuntu; Ubuntu/Mint kernels 4.10.0-xx are built from mainstream kernels 4.10.yy.). Kernel 4.11.something may be available and useful.
(c) In all this the video drive may be limited to VESA, so a proper display presentation will have to wait until you can get a functioning OS to go into Synaptic to install a relevant driver for your video card.

"psensor" depends on "lm-sensors" that is not, as far as I know, yet updated for Ryzen. There is a hack out there I haven't yet tested, but until then, "psensor" won't show much. It is unlikely to damage anything, and in any case I don't think you had a functioning OS yet to run "psensor."

In my historical experience, when Linux boots it checks hardware and if the hardware is different from that of the build, Linux revises its configuration (long boot time possible). However, it may not do this successfully if it doesn't have access to the correct parameters, so this is why you might want to consider installing from a live USB and upgrading the kernel to a version that knows about Ryzen. That said, I installed Mint 18.1, which was built last fall on the 4.4 kernel, and it worked well enough to hack my way to a functioning system. It not only didn't know about Ryzen, it didn't know about my video card either, which made for some inconvenience at first.
     
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post #15683 of 17571
Hi All,

I want to buy new 3200Mhz memory for my Crosshair VI Hero + Ryzen 1700 (overclocked to 3.8Ghz on 1.3volt) build.



Above you can see the support list.

All the memory's run on 14-14-14-34 / 1.35volt , but i cannot find any other differences.. 16GVR / 16 GVK / 16 GTZ is not telling my anything.

Which memory for the above mentioned build is the best?

Budget around 200 ~ 250EU.
post #15684 of 17571
Hello everyone,
I just update to bios 1201.
It's working well (exept cold boot), but going from 1107 to 1201 I had to increased my voltage from 1.39375V to 1.4125V in Zenstates 0.2.2 for a 40x P0 overecloking.
Is that ok ? In AIDA 64 I can read 1.482V and i can't say if it's too high or just "normal".
I use D.O.C.P standard in bios so i can use my flareX 3200. I also use custom P0, P1 and P2 so i can use Zenstates and Core voltage is on offset and left as "auto".
Should I change some settings ? I read that LLC should stay around level 1 or 2 and PLL should be manually fix to 1.8V. At the moment almost everything is set as auto.
Thanks for the help and really work from all of you !
post #15685 of 17571
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Originally Posted by Paperchaser View Post

Hi All,

I want to buy new 3200Mhz memory for my Crosshair VI Hero + Ryzen 1700 (overclocked to 3.8Ghz on 1.3volt) build.



Above you can see the support list.

All the memory's run on 14-14-14-34 / 1.35volt , but i cannot find any other differences.. 16GVR / 16 GVK / 16 GTZ is not telling my anything.

Which memory for the above mentioned build is the best?

Budget around 200 ~ 250EU.

the letters after GTZ mean color. SW= Snow white or something. All GTZ (Gskill-Trident-Z), in your graph, are the same memory but different color. chips are the same. samsung b die 3200 cl14.
Buy the fastest you can get with the lowest CL you can get.
End of may should come AMD update that will improve memory support by a mile. I am kind of curious to see if hynix chips will run good also.
post #15686 of 17571
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Originally Posted by Paperchaser View Post

Hi All,

I want to buy new 3200Mhz memory for my Crosshair VI Hero + Ryzen 1700 (overclocked to 3.8Ghz on 1.3volt) build.



Above you can see the support list.

All the memory's run on 14-14-14-34 / 1.35volt , but i cannot find any other differences.. 16GVR / 16 GVK / 16 GTZ is not telling my anything.

Which memory for the above mentioned build is the best?

Budget around 200 ~ 250EU.

The sticks with TZ in the string are all TridentZ, and the following letters denote what color they are. These should have the same guts. I forget what GV stands for, but a tour of G. Skill's web site should clarify this.
     
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Samsung SSD 850 EVO 256GB Asus UltraDrive 8X Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4  Linux Mint 18.1 MATE 64-bit  
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Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung SSD 850 EVO 256GB Asus UltraDrive 8X Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4  Linux Mint 18.1 MATE 64-bit  
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG 4K TV OLED55B6P Logitech MK235 RF Wireless Keyboard & Mouse PC Power & Cooling Turbo-Cool 860i Nanoxia Project S 
Mouse
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post #15687 of 17571
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Originally Posted by SaccoSVD View Post

Yep. smile.gif The AI suite was inducing a random crash.

Only asus software i have installed was AURA to disable the Rainbow RGB that comes by default, and it works good. Had problems with AI Suite on FX platform so I decided not to install this time and do as much as I can in UEFI BIOS.
post #15688 of 17571
Just curious, say we can actually get the higher frequency RAM to work soon enough. How would a 3200CL14 kit compare to a 4266CL19 kit? Would the latters' latency make it not worth the price difference? (about $70 AUD = $53USD). I'm going to assume the 3200 kit will have more OCing headroom, could you expect to OC the 4266 kit to reduce its latency?
post #15689 of 17571
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Originally Posted by CeltPC View Post

Sort of like the wifi module, the C6H has a ROG extension (ROG_EXT) header. I'd like to get an OC Panel II to be able to utilize it. Asus does not seem to sell them separately, either. Any suggestions?

Oh,, and for those who have wished this board had two internal USB 2.0 headers, apparently the ROG header can be used.

It can be, but most USB 2.0 connectors have that one pin blocked out, preventing people from using the ROG header. A straight 4-pin USB 2 would work, but the 2-port ones would require some modification.
post #15690 of 17571
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Originally Posted by Maxcielle View Post

the letters after GTZ mean color. SW= Snow white or something. All GTZ (Gskill-Trident-Z), in your graph, are the same memory but different color. chips are the same. samsung b die 3200 cl14.
Buy the fastest you can get with the lowest CL you can get.
End of may should come AMD update that will improve memory support by a mile. I am kind of curious to see if hynix chips will run good also.

I will report it once the next BIOS comes out, Hynix 2x16 M-die 3200 rated memory, 16-18-18-36. I have it running at 2400 right now, 0083 lets me run it at 2667. 2993 will post on 0083 with ProcODT of 80, but it is REALLY unstable.
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