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Will try as soon as I'm at home, thanks!

Any more possibilities guys?
SenseMI Skew disable
And as @kundica said give more Vcore.
RealBench its not the best when you try to stress your CPU for stability
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Originally Posted by T800 View Post

I try The Stilt's 3200 Fast settings and fail. But I change timings to 14-14-14-28-1T and passed HCi MemTest %100 coverage. I have not much time and so it is. And afterwards playing Battlefield 1 for 2 hours with no problem.

I only set timings to 14-14-14-28 (instead 14-13-13-26). And I did not touch BankGroupSwap setting so it's enabled. Ram voltage is 1.35V. Ram kit is Gskill Flare-X 2x8GB 3200 C14. Rest is same. BIOS 1403.

You probably need more DRAM voltage to run Stilt's timings. Try 1.4v. While changing primary timings is good, the sub-timings also increase performance.
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SenseMI Skew disable
And as @kundica said give more Vcore.
RealBench its not the best when you try to stress your CPU for stability

Will try giving more vcore, up to 1.373V

Disabling Sense Mi wouldn't add 20° extra? I can live with that, but...

And any stability test recommended? I don't need it to be 101% P95 stable, just for gaming, not rendering or extreme heavy loads.
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@The Sandman

8GB reruns I'm ok.



Just reading your setup to see if there is anything to help me. Do you have any tips? cheers smile.gif .

@kaseki

1mV change on CLDO_VDDP does have an effect for me on CPUs where I changed value.

Yes, after change of value a reset of board or power down up is needed for CPU dLDOs to get voltage latched.

Yes, once you have set a CLDO_VDDP voltage it is that voltage until you change again. Ref my thread OP.

Adjusting CLDO_VDDP if there is no memory hole is useless.

If you are not at hole frequency but if you are close to that hole frequency, then RAM can destabilise on stress testing, so this is why a BCLK tweak test can tell you how much range you have before entering a hole.
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This works. Thanks.

NP smile.gif .
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btw, do you have any idea why my CPU fan headers act this weird? I had the same on my 990FX system.. This time i used the PWM silence mode which worked pretty well until the fans go nuts all of a sudden lol.

No idea redface.gif .
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Hi guys, been trying to keep up with the last 50 pages of this thread, sincerelly, I've learned more than with the rest of the internet xD

One question, my 1600X (on a C6H) is oce'd to 3.9Ghz with 1.352V using Pstates, but sometimes on RoG Realbench the screen goes black and on the Qcode panel it shows Qcode 8.
Temp was on it's 70's monitoring it constantly,SenseMI Skew enabled and 272 offset, using a R1 Ultimate and thermal Grizzly kryonaut.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance!

Q-Code: 8 as stated by kundica can be lack of VCORE, can also be lack of SOC, it can also be too high RAM MHz/tight timings. It's pretty much unstable system and assess OC profile. Only way I know what was reason (loosely) is what I was doing to OC/rig. For example if I changed RAM MHz then it maybe SOC, if I changed CPU MHz then VCORE and so on.
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Will try giving more vcore, up to 1.373V

Disabling Sense Mi wouldn't add 20° extra? I can live with that, but...

And any stability test recommended? I don't need it to be 101% P95 stable, just for gaming, not rendering or extreme heavy loads.

I hope you don't consider games to be light task,are games who use alot of CPU.
From my experience if my CPU its not stable to a stress i will have problems in games.
RealBench its a PC bench,thats why i said use a stress test for CPU,memtest for RAM and/or a stress for GPU
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[Sorry with respect to responsiveness. I have a lot of yard work to do today. At the moment, I'm having a late lunch.]

Whoa! Let me make sure you and I are truly communicating. First, when I corrected my process last night, I changed CLDO and then F10'd to reboot and then shut the PC down (PSU still powered). I may have shut down different ways depending on whether I captured the BIOS or had to wait for the OS banner page. Then I started the PC up again for the next training or stability test. Is that what you mean by reset, or something else?

I also better ask: Given a reset to get the intended CLDO, does every start after that have to involve a reset to keep that CLDO value? Is there some non-reset related reversion to 950 mV? If so, it would be even more tedious to adjust timing values.

"if your settings are right, then you will be able to boot with any CLDO value" This would imply that CLDO is not (or no longer) being used.

By reset I mean forcing the PC to shutdown after hitting F10 and holding the Reset button until the PC powers on by itself. Forced shutdown from the BIOS can be done by changing DRAM boot voltage by 0.005V up or down.

The way to change CLDO:

- Change CLDO_VDDP value
- Change DRAM boot voltage a little
- Hit F10, to save and exit
- The PC will shut down, here you can hold the Reset button down on the PC's front panel
- Release the Reset button when the PC powers on by itself

This will trigger the new CLDO_VDDP value. The PC will remember the CLDO_VDDP voltage you have set in the BIOS, as long as it passes boot/memory training. If it does not pass training and your settings at AMD CBS are gone, so is your CLDO_VDDP and you are back to 950mV.

I hope this clears things up, and you can notice it by when checking stability, as I showed in the screenshots.
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Hmm, I didn't think CLDO mattered for stability. Figured it was only for memory holes.

Not what I found out. I can boot at CLDO_VDDP values from 628mV (the lowest I tried) to 1020mV. As long as your settings are right then you will be able to choose which value to use, the difference will be the stability of the system.

My system now, as I write, is running at CLDO_VDDP = 628mV. I have tuned it to run at this voltage, and have posted the results in an earlier post. My CPU needs 868mV to run without tuning, and I suspect the R7 CPU's can run at 625mV - 630mV without tuning, but I cannot confirm this because I don't have an R7 to test. R7 is better silicon than R5, this is why I think it does not need so high CLDO voltage as 950mV which it is when set to AUTO.
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@The Sandman

8GB reruns I'm ok.



Just reading your setup to see if there is anything to help me. Do you have any tips? cheers smile.gif .

@kaseki

1mV change on CLDO_VDDP does have an effect for me on CPUs where I changed value.

Yes, after change of value a reset of board or power down up is needed for CPU dLDOs to get voltage latched.

Yes, once you have set a CLDO_VDDP voltage it is that voltage until you change again. Ref my thread OP.

Adjusting CLDO_VDDP if there is no memory hole is useless.

If you are not at hole frequency but if you are close to that hole frequency, then RAM can destabilise on stress testing, so this is why a BCLK tweak test can tell you how much range you have before entering a hole.
NP smile.gif .
No idea redface.gif .
Q-Code: 8 as stated by kundica can be lack of VCORE, can also be lack of SOC, it can also be too high RAM MHz/tight timings. It's pretty much unstable system and assess OC profile. Only way I know what was reason (loosely) is what I was doing to OC/rig. For example if I changed RAM MHz then it maybe SOC, if I changed CPU MHz then VCORE and so on.

CPU is a 1600X at 3.9Ghz using 1.352V, bumps to 1.373V under heavy load due to LLC.

My RAM is the CMD16GX4M2B3200C16 kit, 2x8Gb at 3200mhz C16 (configured via D.O.C.P.), SOC Voltage it's 1.1V and Dram Voltage is 1.35V

What do you recommend trying first? Increasing the SoC Voltage or the Vcore?

Thanks!
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I hope you don't consider games to be light task,are games who use alot of CPU.
From my experience if my CPU its not stable to a stress i will have problems in games.
RealBench its a PC bench,thats why i said use a stress test for CPU,memtest for RAM and/or a stress for GPU

Yeah, I know that they aren't a light load, but I've been running 6700K and 7700K oced, the 7700K at 5Ghz @1.296V was all but prime stable, and haven't got a single problem in any game (Battlefield 1, Planetside 2, SW Battleffont, Rainbow Six...) not speaking about LoL precisely xD
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Yeah, I know that they aren't a light load, but I've been running 6700K and 7700K oced, the 7700K at 5Ghz @1.296V was all but prime stable, and haven't got a single problem in any game (Battlefield 1, Planetside 2, SW Battleffont, Rainbow Six...) not speaking about LoL precisely xD
Intel CPU are another story no way we should compare them at this level.


Guys i have a small problem with my ram,if i use slot A2 B2 i can enable or disable BankGroupSwap and Hwinfo its able to read DIMM temperature,but if i use A1 B1 im not able to enable BankGroupSwap(its always disable) and Hwinfo its not readin DIMM temperature,also im able to use 60ohm Procodt
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CPU is a 1600X at 3.9Ghz using 1.352V, bumps to 1.373V under heavy load due to LLC.

My RAM is the CMD16GX4M2B3200C16 kit, 2x8Gb at 3200mhz C16 (configured via D.O.C.P.), SOC Voltage it's 1.1V and Dram Voltage is 1.35V

What do you recommend trying first? Increasing the SoC Voltage or the Vcore?

Thanks!

Vcore. SOC is ample for 3200MHz IMO. Most of the CPUs I have had need 1V or less SOC for 3200MHz.
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