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Originally Posted by AndehX View Post

1.05v

I've just set it to 1.1v but im not hopeful that it'll make any difference. If it does, I'll update.

Yes please do. I'd be interested to hear how it goes.

I personally noticed that my 'memory training fails' went away at the settings that gave me stability in IBT AVX, which requires quite a bit more vcore and vSoC than f.e. Prime95. So now I'm running 1.417vcore(idle) and 1.15vSoc to have 3.8GHz and 3333MHz/CL14 DRAM stable. vcore drops to ~1.35v with Prime95 and to ~1.33v with IBT AVX.
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Originally Posted by Timur Born View Post

Technically I wanted to know if BGS has to be manually set to disabled when BGSA is enabled, or if BGS "Auto" will disable on its own once BGSA is enabled. According to Gupsterg's tests the "Auto" setting switches on its own. The Stilt's phrasing was a bit ambivalent on this.

Of course it's no problem to just manually set both options, but I liked to have this clarified.

No problem chap, glad it's all clear.
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gupsterg my friend

BankGroupSwapAlt is Bank Group Swap Alternative method that simulate Bank Group Swap, you enable this then you have enabled Bank Group Swap, this is not optimal for 1DPC SR (as you call it). And I rest my case and wish you good luck. smile.gif

Please Ramad. I beg of you to view post 24785 bold text BGS: Auto BGSA: Enabled, here is that screenshot.

http://cdn.overclock.net/c/cc/cc574123_BGSAUTOBGSAENABLED.jpeg

BGS is disabled, when it is auto and BGSA is enabled. As it is a mutually exclusive function, the "Auto rule" in UEFI does this.

Now in that post is also BGS: Disabled BGSA: Enabled, see how it performs the same.

http://cdn.overclock.net/9/92/929c40f1_BGSDISABLEDBGSAENABLED.jpeg

I know BGSA is alternative Bank Group Swapping method, but BGS does not need to be enabled, nor should it be enabled as 1 method should and is employed.

Now compare BGS: Disabled BGSA: Disabled

http://cdn.overclock.net/a/ae/ae459f83_BGSDISABLEDBGSADISABLED.jpeg

This matches what is highlighted in AMD article, I lose AIDA64 performance, so as stated before BGSA was disabled in their tests and UEFI has this as default regardless what BGS is set to.

Please your posts will confuse members that are looking to know what to do on 1 dimm per channel single rank RAM.
Edited by gupsterg - 7/29/17 at 9:19am
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I have just put together my new PC with the CrossHair V1 Hero and a 1700 Ryzen. The CPU is on stock clocks and voltage. I have set the Ram to 3200 (14-14-14-34-48).

Are the temps in HWINFO64 (v5.55) accurate for this board? The reason I ask is when running stress/stability tests Aida64 (v5.92) reports the socket temp as 10 degrees higher than is reported by HWINFO64.

Do these max temps look reasonable for 30 minutes of small FFTs in Prime 95 as reported by HWINFO? Ambients were 21c.

CPU = 39c
MB = 29c
Socket = 57c

Also what are the safe max temps for stress testing when I do start to OC the CPU ?

Thanks lots.
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Originally Posted by crastakippers View Post

I have just put together my new PC with the CrossHair V1 Hero and a 1700 Ryzen. The CPU is on stock clocks and voltage. I have set the Ram to 3200 (14-14-14-34-48).

Are the temps in HWINFO64 (v5.55) accurate for this board? The reason I ask is when running stress/stability tests Aida64 (v5.92) reports the socket temp as 10 degrees higher than is reported by HWINFO64.

Do these max temps look reasonable for 30 minutes of small FFTs in Prime 95 as reported by HWINFO? Ambients were 21c.

CPU = 39c
MB = 29c
Socket = 57c

Also what are the safe max temps for stress testing when I do start to OC the CPU ?

Thanks lots.

What is UEFI version?

Please post screenshot for assessment of HWINFO.
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Guys, it's up to you how you set your motherboard's settings, but don't expect ground breaking results. Choose what is best for you, based on your experience not based on who said what.
If somebody think my settings are optimal, then you are mistaken, because I tune my settings all the time based on my testings and experience with my system.

@gupsterg

Please look below and tell me what is the difference:

The tests follows the BIOS screenshots

BGS = Enabled
BGSA = Enabled

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)











BGS = Enabled
BGSA = Disabled

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)












BGS = Disabled
BGSA = Enabled

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)












In all tests above, Bank Group Swap is enabled, one way or another, please tell me the difference between them. I have just done these tests, 4 tests for every pair of settings and 5 min. after login to windows.

Can you point out the difference in performance?
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@Ramad

By your post if I took it on board I should not also follow AMDs guidelines as someone has done testing and stated xyz.

I give up. I'm waving white flag of surrender.
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@Ramad

By your post if I took it on board I should not also follow AMDs guidelines as someone has done testing and stated xyz.

I give up. I'm waving white flag of surrender.

I have a dual rank memory, so my system benefits from enabling Bank Group Swap, you don't benefit from enabling it because you have a single rank memory and should disable that altogether according to AMD tests.
Good luck gup. smile.gif
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Hi gupsterg,

the bios is 1403.

Temps screen shot. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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say what now?

I thought the ones with the temperature issue were the x series?

And that the 1700 non-x would be reading correct temps before?

So why am I now seeing 20C higher temps on a non-x?

Is it that the x-versions were correct and they have now added 20C to the non-x?

1501 bios by the way
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Guys, it's up to you how you set your motherboard's settings, but don't expect ground breaking results. Choose what is best for you, based on your experience not based on who said what.
If somebody think my settings are optimal, then you are mistaken, because I tune my settings all the time based on my testings and experience with my system.

@gupsterg

Please look below and tell me what is the difference:

The tests follows the BIOS screenshots

BGS = Enabled
BGSA = Enabled

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)











BGS = Enabled
BGSA = Disabled

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)












BGS = Disabled
BGSA = Enabled

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)












In all tests above, Bank Group Swap is enabled, one way or another, please tell me the difference between them. I have just done these tests, 4 tests for every pair of settings and 5 min. after login to windows.

Can you point out the difference in performance?
Frame rates in games will increase after disabling both at same time benchmark shows slower performance.
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