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Does ANYONE know what is going on here?

For me Real Bench and IBT AVX cause my display output to freeze (sometimes for several seconds) since I upgraded to the Creators Update. The system is still stable and passes the tests but it is not usable at all during stress testing with those programs. Prime95 doesn't cause this.

So after doing 100 voodoo steps to get Creators update to install, I am up and running. But yeah, I have the exact same problem, while Realbench stress testing every minute or so it freezes everything for a few seconds then resumes normally. *** is going on? How do we fix this? If it helps I have a 100% stable 1800X at 3.94ghz, Gskil at 3366mhz C14 Stilts, Corsair 1000W psu and H100i, Nvidia 1080Ti latest drivers, Samsung 960 NVME 1TB, all top quality parts for a Ryzen build.
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1501 is still the newest BIOS? 9920 now completely drove me insane, had it get stuck on training or on post screen two times, today my PC never even successfully posted, not even after a CMOS clear. Going to use flashback now, hope it works...
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Originally Posted by Frikencio View Post

I can replicate that. I've been on A1 B1 since launch and never gave me problems.

Is A2 B2 better?

A2 and B2 are the recommended slots for using 2 dimms. See manual.
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Thanks

Does anyone know if there has been any Vdroop testing done specifically on the CH6? I'm trying to figure out if using LLC may be a better approach to avoid higher average voltage when using offset mode in lower pstates. So far my 1700 seemingly requires a lot more voltage to get 3.8 stable as opposed to my Gaming 5; gaming 5 took about 160mV more (+0.1625v offset), whereas I'm now testsing 4hr stability on my CH6 and I'm already at +193mV (+0.1925v offset). Very hard to make heads or tails of this when software readings are all over the place, and the hardware readings at the probe points may not be taking into account vdroop or voltage at the back of the socket.

See my thread. ProbeIt points include LLC. All I use/do/need to know is pretty much in OP, I update it as and when needed in OP.

@finalheaven

I moved over to W7 Pro x64, Y-Cruncher v0.7.3.9472 is fine in W7 Pro x64, where as W10C it can exhibit erratic behaviour. TBH my preferred OS for daily use is W7 Pro x64, I also find for me gaming performance and benchmarking is better in W7.

Passed this info and other gathered today to Y-Cruncher author. Continuing testing.

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A2 and B2 are the recommended slots for using 2 dimms. See manual.

But does it actually change anything?
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But does it actually change anything?

Are you happy with your RAM frequency, voltage and timings using A1/B1? If your are happy with your current configuration then leave it alone. smile.gif
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I originally intended to hold any further updates until I'm able to support reading the low-level controller parameters (such as ProcODT). Unfortunately it is currently impossible to support reading these parameters, since the current configuration of the PSP prevents it. We'll see if this is going to change, however there is really no ETA (that I'd know of).
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Yea, I believe 4 dimms is too much to run 1T with geardown disabled.

Why not do Geardown enabled though? It is faster than disabled + 2T as geardown is effectively 1.5T.

Not sure if setting 1T or 2T with geardown enabled does anything though. Assuming with geardown enabled it runs at its own 1.5T speed anyways.

I'm running 4X8 G.Skill 3600 C16 tridentz at 1T geardown disabled at 3366mhz C14 Stilts speed settings and 1.41v ddr Vsoc 1.18125V 100% stable, anything higher is not stable, and no point in going higher and loosening timings. I get nice scores in Aida trial, got latency down to about 67-68 and read/writes like 50,000.
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See my thread. ProbeIt points include LLC. All I use/do/need to know is pretty much in OP, I update it as and when needed in OP.

@finalheaven

I moved over to W7 Pro x64, Y-Cruncher v0.7.3.9472 is fine in W7 Pro x64, where as W10C it can exhibit erratic behaviour. TBH my preferred OS for daily use is W7 Pro x64, I also find for me gaming performance and benchmarking is better in W7.

Passed this info and other gathered today to Y-Cruncher author. Continuing testing.


Author of y-cruncher here:

If a thread encounters an error (such as from an overclock instability), it will stop immediately. But it may or may not report the error immediately depending on the nature of the error. Some errors don't get reported until the test is done for all the other threads.

In that case you will see that a thread has stopped while everything else is still running. But once the test finishes, it will display the error.

The difference between v0.7.2 and v0.7.3 is the "Mode" option. In v0.7.2 and earlier, the stress test simply created N threads and let them run freely. If a thread stops due to an error, you might not notice since the OS is constantly bouncing all the other threads around.

In v0.7.3, each thread is pinned to a specific logical core. So when a thread stops, you'll notice immediately in Task Manager as the graph for that logical core goes to zero.

To summarize:
  • "Mode: Local - Thread-local memory. Pin threads to cores." - means to pin all threads to specific logical cores (default in v0.7.3)
  • "Mode: Global - Shared memory, no thread pinning." - means to let the threads roam freely (same behavior as v0.7.2 and earlier)

The reason for this split is quite complicated and it involves multi-socket systems with NUMA. On a NUMA system, the old behavior (Mode: Global) may produce a drastically different load on the processor as (Mode: Local) due to memory locality and bandwidth limitations of the cross-socket interconnects.
Edited by Mysticial - 7/29/17 at 3:16pm
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Hey Crosshair dudes,

Does anyone know what kind of thermal probe fits in the tiny hole on the back side of the socket in order to measure the temp of the CPU? I have an thermal probe of my fan controller taped to the back side of the socket and its working pretty nice and the fans don't ramp up that much anymore, the CPU sits between 40-50 c when gaming and the fans don't even have to kick in.. I would like to have a more accurate thermal probe than the sticker.

Thnx.

I didn't notice this hole, but typically an iron-constantine (Type K) thermocouple can be made very small, either as naked wires twisted together at the tip, or sheathed. Look up thermocouples for more information. Various such sensors with modules are available to use with a digital voltmeter. Going back in history, the two wires would have been connected to a very sensitive (and expensive) current meter, configured so that there were no spurious current-generating electrical couples between any of the conductors except at the twisted pair performing the sensing. I'll have to look carefully to see if there is one in the Superposition Lab. Tables exist of the voltage couple generated as a function of temperature. This characteristic is determined by the materials, and is very accurate and stable.

Just to close this hanging question: In Unigine Superposition, towards the end of the benchmark, there is a scene of a desk with a burning cigarette. Left of the cigarette is a blue-gray box bottom containing a black meter assembly, with a set of leads that look like they culminate in a probe. Edit: This could be a thermocouple meter. I haven't figured out how to get close enough in game mode to read the meter markings. Close inspection reveals it is a volt-amp meter of ancient design. There is a second one on a desk to the right. I have pretty well trashed the entire lab in game mode looking, but haven't found a thermocouple meter. I was looking for something like this:


Edited by kaseki - 7/29/17 at 4:56pm
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