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Interesting, another uses claims the same..

I Am not saying that it is impossible but there simply is no need for the extra 4-pin as Ryzen chips are not that power hungry. 1-3 c difference is not much and can be related to slightly lower ambient temps, different load etc.

How much of an difference you see in clocks?
nothing crazy.just an extra 50mhz at the same voltage. been stuck at 3.95ghz. but can now push past 4ghz without changing the core. I was doing 3.95 at 1.4v.i don't want to go higher than 1.4v (even though they say 1.425 is ok for every day use). im currently running it at 4ghz and ram at 3466mhz. I hit a 1801cb score. very happy
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[...] smile.gif They also don't mention anything about xtreme OCing or LN cooling which I kind a find to be a bit funny to think or assume Asus went out of their way with this for the just 0.00000001% of owners that actually OC using LN lol I kind a find that hard to believe. Out of 10k mobo's sold how many do you think are used for LN? There has to be another or a better reason.

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But if you think about it the LN2 Switch the peekhole for tempsensors - there are alot features which are for LN2
And because there are not that many other boardvendors also building LN2 capable boards i guess ASUS get most of the LN2 customers ;)

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But if you think about it the LN2 Switch the peekhole for tempsensors - there are alot features which are for LN2

And because there are not that many other boardvendors also building LN2 capable boards i guess ASUS get most of the LN2 customers wink.gif

No i know that which is why i wrote not 'just' for LN2 ..I'm aware of that LN2 jumper switch designed to aid cold-boots once that's activated which in turn I suspect being the main culprit of why the mobo is plagued with a cold-boot anyway. I'm pretty confident Asus will get this fixed in the next bios update.
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I agree with several others here and think once the new AGESA drops, a new thread should be created. Because, you have to admit, 3000 pages IS rather ludicrous. tongue.gif

But than i cant use the serchfunction anymore and always have to switch between threads :/

This thread is like an insider Ryzen Wiki
When a ROG Crosshair VI overclocking thread 2 is going to be created...
It's likely imo that the administration of this forum will make this tread "locked"... meaning... it's becomes a "read only" tread.
So you should then still be able to use "search this tread" if they decide to go that road.
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That really depends on what variant you have. Trident Z 3200@CL14 are all Samsung b-dies and should be easy to hit 3200MHz, @CL15 is bit of mix different chips, 3200@CL16 you are probably out of luck as those are most likely Hynix chips and would be problematic to make it run at 3200MHz.

I only today with latest beta bios was able 1st-time boot to windows with 2933MHz using Trident Z 3200@CL16 (2x16GB), so far no issue running few short benchmarks, but need to test stability more tomorrow.
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Damn, I had de CL16... then... What can I spect with this? 2933MHz? or less? My other option is a i7-7700K in a TUF Z270 MARK 1... I'm so confused right now xD
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I love how this thread keeps rounding itself on the same stuff, to start lets quote myself on this additional 4 pin nonesense
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because its a "premium" board, and it needs "premium" features. that say Quality.
the same as GPU's that put dual 8pin power connectors when they are power limited long before they could use all the power anyway.
kinda a marketing thing. but hey, who knows zen refresh and zen 2 might make use of them.

although I have heard some say it smooths power delivery when the 8+4 is connected. there might be something to that.
thus enabling higher clocks if you were on the verge of stability. but I have no firsthand knowledge of it.
More vcore lines will always provide less noise and droop and more efficient delivery, that said it's fairly minimal unless the 4 pin connector supply's power to the core on a separate trace from the 8 pin which it probably doesn't

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No i know that which is why i wrote not 'just' for LN2 ..I'm aware of that LN2 jumper switch designed to aid cold-boots once that's activated which in turn I suspect being the main culprit of why the mobo is plagued with a cold-boot anyway. I'm pretty confident Asus will get this fixed in the next bios update.

The boards LN2 features have nothing to do with the cold boot looping the boards do when training memory at high frequency's. when people say cold boot they're referring to starting the system after the capacitors were discharged from being unplugged from a power source. Its an incredibly different issue compared to when you attempt to boot the system at sub ambiet or much lower temperatures and to when the ln2 switch because useful/necessary.

Also just a reminder: anyone coming in here asking about timmings and speeds, especially sub timmings, should be directed to 1usmus's calc thread if they don't wish to look back at the last hundred or so posts/pages of this thread.
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For a cold boot issue where DRAM timings and settings all remain steady with only Zen Common States settings reverting back to stock, are there any fixes besides flashing the BIOS that's suggested in the OP? I've read that increasing DRAM Boot Voltages can help, or DRAM voltages themselves. Any truth to this before I start testing? I'm not on the most recent BIOS. I'm on BIOS 1602 where a 4Ghz OC is stable and my memory is at its stock 3200Mhz/CL14 settings. I'd rather not potentially spoil that by trying another BIOS.
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Hello to all. I am a new member of the Asus Crosshair vi hero with ryzen 1700.

I have order these rams :

http://www.visionstudio.gr/prodinfo.asp?id=51579&cat=4

Will they run in this motherboard in 3200 cl15 speed?

If not whats the best choice to do with them? They are samsung b die 100%. Thanks you very much.

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Hello to all. I am a new member of the Asus Crosshair vi hero with ryzen 1700.

I have order these rams :

http://www.visionstudio.gr/prodinfo.asp?id=51579&cat=4

Will they run in this motherboard in 3200 cl15 speed?

If not whats the best choice to do with them? They are samsung b die 100%. Thanks you very much.

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I'm fairly certain, but I could be wrong, that gskill ripjaws memory kits is a mix stock of sammy m and b so thats not a 100% guarantee of it being b-die a set. And as far as running any old kit goes, the bios are mature enough to run whatever but you'll need to calculate your sub timmings to run anything not sammy b at they're rated clocks.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1640919/ryzen-dram-calculator-overclocking-dram

always run the calculator before you start asking about sub timings, it takes all the guess work out of finding which settings work best compared to someone's timmings on some random forum
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For a cold boot issue where DRAM timings and settings all remain steady with only Zen Common States settings reverting back to stock, are there any fixes besides flashing the BIOS that's suggested in the OP? I've read that increasing DRAM Boot Voltages can help, or DRAM voltages themselves. Any truth to this before I start testing? I'm not on the most recent BIOS. I'm on BIOS 1602 where a 4Ghz OC is stable and my memory is at its stock 3200Mhz/CL14 settings. I'd rather not potentially spoil that by trying another BIOS.

if by zen common states you mean AMD_CBS settings? if so then what you might need to do is set the mem over clock fail count to 3 or more so when its boot looping at cold start it doesn't start/semi start into soft safe boot settings afterward as that'll clear anything you set under AMD_CBS if it exceeds a single loop at default
Edited by LightningManGTS - 11/11/17 at 1:53pm
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Thanks you very much for the answer. Maybe I will return them and will buy F4-3200C14D-16GTZ than run 100% in our mobo in 3200cl14. 16gb of ram for this kit has 251 euro in my country. This thing with the rams make me angry. 218 euro before 20 days 251 today. Dame.

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