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I went from 1501 to 0096 and kept getting 94 error. Any other way to get back on 312?

The safest way is to flash to 0003 then 0096 to get back to EC312. For some reason, some motherboards can't flash directly.
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Originally Posted by goncalossilva View Post


It'd be great to know what the differences really are. smile.gif

I think it's better to let it be for now. Just make sure that your RAM VTTDDR is a bit higher than half of your RAM voltage and have the CPU 3.3V AUX set to 3.5V and you should be good. smile.gif

A screenshot that shows the RAM running at higher speed does not mean the system is stable. It can only be stable if the memory controller allows it, which is so rare.
Edited by Ramad - 11/24/17 at 5:54pm
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The safest way is to flash to 0003 then 0096 to get back to EC312. For some reason, some motherboards can't flash directly.
As in flash back to back? Flash 0003 then without turning on, flash 0096 after its done flashing 0003?
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As in flash back to back? Flash 0003 then without turning on, flash 0096 after its done flashing 0003?

1. Flashback 0003, turn on the PC when done, let it update then turn of the PC when it boots up (if you want to use Flashback in the next step).
2. Flashback or use Eazyflash to flash 0096, start the PC (if Flashback is used) when done and let it update EC. You should have EC312 now and can flash to any BIOS you like.
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Originally Posted by Ramad View Post

The safest way is to flash to 0003 then 0096 to get back to EC312. For some reason, some motherboards can't flash directly.
I think it's better to let it be for now. Just make sure that your RAM VTTDDR is a bit higher than half of your RAM voltage and have the CPU 3.3V AUX set to 3.5V and you should be good. smile.gif

A screenshot that shows the RAM running at higher speed does not mean the system is stable. It can only be stable if the memory controller allows it, which is so rare.

Yup ryzen stability is all about imc/ram tbh im quite puzxled why amd went this way. Locking cache and infinity fabrick to memory speed.

I hope we gave it unlinked at zen 2 or 3.
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Yup ryzen stability is all about imc/ram tbh im quite puzxled why amd went this way. Locking cache and infinity fabrick to memory speed.

I hope we gave it unlinked at zen 2 or 3.

I doubt it will be unlocked. AMD's memory controller is far too superior to Intel's memory controller and one of the reasons is that they have RAM and the controller linked. What is shown below is the amount of read errors that is generated by Intel compared to AMD. The study is not about memory controllers, but about a phenomenon called "Row Hammer" whereby 0s turns to 1s and the other way around. AMD's memory controller does much better in the example they show (page 4).



The study can be found here, if someone is interested in reading it: https://users.ece.cmu.edu/~yoonguk/papers/kim-isca14.pdf
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How did you get to 310? Weren't you one of the ones that flashed Ramads special bios?

I didn't... Started the RMA process today for my C6H. rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by Ramad View Post

The safest way is to flash to 0003 then 0096 to get back to EC312. For some reason, some motherboards can't flash directly.
I think it's better to let it be for now. Just make sure that your RAM VTTDDR is a bit higher than half of your RAM voltage and have the CPU 3.3V AUX set to 3.5V and you should be good. smile.gif

A screenshot that shows the RAM running at higher speed does not mean the system is stable. It can only be stable if the memory controller allows it, which is so rare.

Never touched CPU 3.3V AUX before. Does it make a difference for CPU OC, RAM OC or both?
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Originally Posted by Ramad View Post

1. Flashback 0003, turn on the PC when done, let it update then turn of the PC when it boots up (if you want to use Flashback in the next step).
2. Flashback or use Eazyflash to flash 0096, start the PC (if Flashback is used) when done and let it update EC. You should have EC312 now and can flash to any BIOS you like.
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Originally Posted by dorbot View Post

PM Elmor, he will send you a link to a bios which will reflash the EC after flashing bios. You have to use flashback cos it is an earlier "not a proper bios" Then reflash bios of your choice.
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As in flash back to back? Flash 0003 then without turning on, flash 0096 after its done flashing 0003?

I advise you to write to Elmor in private messages, the risk of turning into a brick is high
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I have an Asus Essence STX, and have no issues with it other than if I try high BCLK overclocks, which I no longer need to do. It is the older model of what you have, but nevertheless should be comparable in terms of compatibility. The sound produced by these cards really is fantastic if you have the quality speakers or headphones necessary to appreciate it.
Hey man, I'm glad that's working out for you. Unfortunately, there are quite a lot of people with the same problem I'm experiencing, and apparently it's on ALL AM4 mobos. I'm just going to give up and remove it... *sigh*
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I doubt it will be unlocked. AMD's memory controller is far too superior to Intel's memory controller and one of the reasons is that they have RAM and the controller linked. What is shown below is the amount of read errors that is generated by Intel compared to AMD. The study is not about memory controllers, but about a phenomenon called "Row Hammer" whereby 0s turns to 1s and the other way around. AMD's memory controller does much better in the example they show (page 4).



The study can be found here, if someone is interested in reading it: https://users.ece.cmu.edu/~yoonguk/papers/kim-isca14.pdf

Well we see how it goes. I started digging on topic of the aux voltage. I was very curious what does it power?? For fun set it at 3.5 as You sugested. Noticed around 1.5c jump in temperature ill see what impact does it have on system stability.

Is i voltage from die to imc sort of a thing??
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