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Originally Posted by Zhuni View Post

Just had an overvolting error on this board. Put 1.2250v in to vcore and saved. Pre-bios screen flashed up red with over volt error. Bios showed v core at 1.7v thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

We have a few fixes for irregularities in voltage control coming.

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Originally Posted by Purple Hayz View Post

Hey El I haven't tried the Win software in awhile, but on the BIOS side I keep getting a hard floor of 60% every time I try to manually set my case fans (1,2, and 3) to a lower duty cycle. They *should* be able to spin at 30% power (and the qfan analysis in BIOS confirms this), but if I try anything under 60 I get an "invalid input range" error.

You need to manually select PWM Mode to have a lower limit of 20%.. In DC Mode the lower limit is 60%. There's an issue right now with CHAFAN2+3 which is not detecting the fan type correctly (Auto setting).

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Originally Posted by MindBlank View Post

@elmor and @Raja@ASUS

Guys, I really need some input on an issue I'm having - please take the time to read this; I know it's a little long-winded, but bare with me:

I'm having issues with Premier Pro on my 1700X and C6H and importing video files. I normally import around 20-30GB of 4K video files, which is around 30-80 files. The problem is that when loading previews/conforming RAM usage shoots up very fast (10-15s) to 13.8-14.3 GB (I have 16GB of G.SKILL TridentZ 3600MHz which I run at 3200MHz CL14) and then the app gives errors or crashes or out of memory messages - I can't do any editing whatsoever.

So why am I contacting you guys? Well, I've slowly eliminated almost all variables and I'm left with the motherboard.

- In contrast, my 7700K on the Strix Z270F Gaming motherboard goes to around 11-12GB just as fast, but then the RAM drops to 2-3GB and starts climbing slowly back up again. The same files, the same Premier Pro - the SAME RAM - meaning the exact same sticks, so it's not the RAM.
- I tried so far with the latest PP version (11.0.2) and 11.0.1 and 11.0.0, and it behaves the same.
- I did a fresh Windows 10 install (up to date, every time) and it does the same.
- I switched to Windows 7 and it behaves the exact same.
- I tried with GPU accelerated Mercury Engine CUDA (GTX 1070) and OpenGL (RX 480 8GB) as well as software Mercury Engine and it's the same.
- I reverted everything to bone stock - 1700X stock and 2133MHz - the same.
- I tried running off of other SSDs and it doesn't matter. I placed all cache files on the same drive as the project and source files with no luck getting it to work.
- Meanwhile, a user here is reporting working with 50GB 4K files on 16GB RAM and a Ryzen CPU with no issues. Not sure if he's using the C6H or the X370 Prime.

So the question is - could this be a motherboard issues? Either specific to C6H or specific to MY C6H? I really need some help with this - no one knows what's going on... THANKS!

Probably because you have more cores now and the software utilizes more RAM because of it. You can test this theory by downcoring to 4 cores.

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Originally Posted by gupsterg View Post


What Sense MI settings do I need to make temps in monitoring as 0902? I have R7 1700.

Cheers.

Defaults on 0902 are Sense MI skew = Enabled and Sense MI offset = 283.
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Originally Posted by tomomosius View Post



Mine is really hot for some reason and that voltage also seems really high
Could someone help?

It has 38deg.cels so it's Fine tongue.gif (-20deg)
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Hey Elmor,

Just quickly i went from unboxing straight to bios 1001.

are the temps that show in bios and Ryzen master correct for the 1700x or do they still have the 20c offset? that need to account for.

And of course any new bios with the supposed new microcode this week?
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Originally Posted by biohaufen View Post

Wow, to be honest..... I'm really angry right now.
I had my Voltage on Auto to do some tests with the stock frequency and I just got an overvoltage warning....
I looked it up in my UEFI an it showed 1.722V while having a temperature of about 68°C.
What is this ****?
I never used any OC tools for Windows and only did change my BCLK to 105, so that my memory is running with 2800 MHz. Sorry, but these are things that are not allowed to happen. I am well aware that Auto Voltage settings are always a bit fishy, but still.... 1.7V? That's crazy. mad.gif

Hopes are good that my R7 1700 is still well alive, but wow.... -.-
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Originally Posted by Zhuni View Post

Just had an overvolting error on this board. Put 1.2250v in to vcore and saved. Pre-bios screen flashed up red with over volt error. Bios showed v core at 1.7v thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

Found this...
Seems like I were not the only one with this issue. rolleyes.gif

 

You need to use load line calibration to manage how much the auto voltage jumps up and down. 

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Started having stability issues with my 3200Mhz settings, as others have stated Windows just bombs out randomly. Last night I played like 4 hours of Battlefront straight and everything was stable. This morning it's restarted 3 times just trying to set up my email :/ Gone back to 2666Mhz for now.
I too have had issues with Windows dumping itself on 3200 memory clocks. Will run for 8-16 hours full load on distributed computing and then I will find the computer on the login screen. The mini-dump always pointed at memory management issues. So I backed the memory down to 2933 and it seems to like it and is stable so far after a day and half on full load @ 3800 Mhz of distributed computing tasks. The system would pass Prime95 and OCCT stress tests fine at 3200. But making the system do real work is the best stress test in my opinion.
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It has 38deg.cels so it's Fine tongue.gif (-20deg)
the bios is 1001 sense is turned off and i have a kraken x61
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Took more voltage readings today and got even more bad news. I can now state with high confidence that the software vcore readings not only seem to be wrong, but the bias is A) systematic and B) proportionate to CPU package power and/or voltage

All readings are taken on my 1800x @4.0GHz DDR3200. As a refresher, yesterday I measured this:

V-core setpoint: +.043 offset
LLC: auto (none?)
HWinFO64 vcore: 1.352
Actual Voltage on DMM (Fluke 73-III): 1.41
Load: Prime95 large FFT drawing ~115 watts
Bias: -.6

Today I took several additional measurements:

V-core setpoint: +.024 offset
LLC: 3
HWinFO64 vcore: 1.373
Actual Voltage on DMM: 1.441
Load: Prime95 blend drawing ~125 watts
Bias: ~-.7

V-core setpoint: +.006 offset
LLC: 3
HWinFO64 vcore: 1.352
Actual Voltage on DMM: 1.424
Load: Prime95 small FFT drawing ~144 watts
Bias: -.7

V-core setpoint: +.012 offset
LLC: 3
HWinFO64 vcore: 1.352
Actual Voltage on DMM: 1.404
Load: Prime95 large FFT drawing ~113 watts
Bias: -.5

At this point, I'd be really hard pressed to trust any software readings of the voltage flowing through the CPU. They're underreporting the vcore by anywhere from 50 to 70 mv, and that's way too risky to mess around with. Notably, LLC does not seem to be the culprit here. Anyone pushing 1.45 vcore in software is already wading into "death voltage" territory. Even guys in relatively "safe" ranges like 1.38 to 1.42 could be exceeding AMD's recommended 1.45 threshold without even knowing it (depending on load conditions).

Can anyone else confirm this pattern? Specifically, that the gap b/w software vcore and DMM readings grows with the amount of power drawn by the CPU?
Edited by Purple Hayz - 3/20/17 at 10:56pm
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Just finished my build yesterday, currently using the Wraith Spire until I get my hands on a bracket.

I was able to go straight to 3200 at 1.35v with Corsair LED 16GB 3200. My 1700 is currently running completely stable at 3.8ghz, 1.285v manual. I was able to get 3.9ghz at 1.3v but was unstable when benchmarking.

The only issue I'm having atm is my boot times. Its taking almost 20 seconds for my monitor, mouse and keyboard to turn on and get to the ROG screen, after that windows boots fairly quickly. But it should be nowhere near this slow considering I have windows installed on a Samsung 960 Evo 500gb. Also not hearing a beep when booting. Any help please @majestynl @elmor?
Edited by ShiftyJ - 3/21/17 at 3:43am
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So...

Running bios 1001

Windows 10 build 15063

1700 with F4-3200C14D-32GTZKW (2 x 16 gig Samsung Die)

2666 mhz on ram so far.


3.9 with 1.38 voltage for now.




http://valid.x86.fr/f82uvk
Edited by Dazog - 3/20/17 at 11:33pm
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So after hours of killing myself over the RAM being not stable, I finally realized that 2 of my sticks (same kit) could be defective. Neither of them can run HCI memtest without throwing a fist. Luckily they are still in RMA period. I'm gonna throw them into the x99 system and see if anything changes, or else I'll do an RMA tomorrow redface.gif
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