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@elmor

What is the difference between 0079 and 0081? What is the ProcODT set at for 0079?
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Just the ProcODT change, 0079 relies on whatever Auto value AMD deems is best.
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For anyone unfamiliar with ODT, it's a termination setting for signal integrity purposes. It's not going to affect performance (directly) or degrade your chip but it will affect your ability to run at higher clock speeds. Both DRAM and DRAM controllers (IMCs) have ODT (on-die termination) resistors that are configurable to a few different settings. Nominal ODT values are often set based on trace impedances, but other factors often come into play. I can imagine things like: number of DIMMs installed, DIMM PCB design, VDIMM and VTT voltages, etc all having an effect on which ODT setting works best. I would shy away from very high settings because the signal will overshoot/ring a lot and potentially cause problems.

Added all this in OP of my thread, section RAM Info / Data Fabric (DFICLK) / Memory Stability testing > C6H UEFI 0079 onwards in ProcODT plus other settings to aid gaining RAM Speed .
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These new BIOSes seem to be going alright, lots of people going from 1t to 2t though.

Seems like 0079-0083 needs more voltage for vcore can anyone confirm? i may just wait for the official BIOS, I'm enjoying my 1.199 vcore stability and 2933 ram at 16-16-16-16-36.

Still no audio fix though.

Ye posted second that looks it does at my system also fro same click
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1700/1700x/1800x lol.
Interesting. I wonder if there's any downside to people who are changing it to 80ohms instead of 53.3.

Vaguely remembering my VSWR lessons back when dinosaurs walked the earth (well before Mozilla walked the earth on Netscape), if the termination of a transmission line is too high or too low to match the transmission line impedance there will be increased ringing. However, the circuitry using the transmitted waveform may have a response to rise time as well as to a distinct level change, so some ringing (with the correct phase) could help. I suspect that without a full model of the DRAM interface, only experiment will yield an optimal result, which seems to be the case here.
     
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Could those of you with DMMs see if the higher Vcore offset requirement of the new BIOSes actually results in higher voltages? I'm seeing something suggesting the default might just be lower so the offset requires a higher number.

On 0079, R7 1700, using same +162mV VCORE offset, LLC: [Auto], again what I used on 0902 / 1001 / 1002. Same ~1.380V with +/- 0.005V depending on app load CPU, etc. Measurement done on Pro Belt VCORE point as my case does not allow access to socket area. Planning soon to mod motherboard tray wink.gif .
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I'm currently using the version available on the Asus website. V1.04.26. I also tried the Intel version you link earlier this week (V.1.04.29 or 31 if I remember correctly), but it doesnt change anything except I have more crash/freeze with it.
The iROG versio is (look at the picture below?)
CableMod magnetic rgb, so they are suppose to be aura ready? I have 6 strip and all of them is doing that.
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Thanks you biggrin.gif If you want to see more pictures of the build: http://imgur.com/a/Kl0vh


I also tried with the stock RGB cooler. when I'm choosing a static color, it's working (blue is blue, green is green, etc..), but the rainbow effect isnt synchronize (ninja edit: yes it is sync if I'm calibrating it)
edit: One thing I noticed is when I was calibrating the stock cooler, when it was asking for the color. The order was 1-3-2 (red-blue-green). But now with the cablemod RGB led it's 1-2-3(red-green-blue). What's suppose to be the right order in the calibration setting? red-blue-green or red-green blue in the calibration?

I updated my BIOS and the new windows version (with the gaming mode) at the same time. Yesterday, I tried (in order) 1002 -> 0082 -> 1002 -> 0079 (now I have 0079). I also tried a reset of the PC (but I still have the last windows version)


CableMod has a small cable adapter which crosses blue and green cable, deliverd with the strips. Try using it at the RGB-header.
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@elmor
I'm currently using the version available on the Asus website. V1.04.26. I also tried the Intel version you link earlier this week (V.1.04.29 or 31 if I remember correctly), but it doesnt change anything except I have more crash/freeze with it.
The iROG versio is (look at the picture below?)
CableMod magnetic rgb, so they are suppose to be aura ready? I have 6 strip and all of them is doing that.
Case: Inwin 303
Thanks you biggrin.gif If you want to see more pictures of the build: http://imgur.com/a/Kl0vh


I also tried with the stock RGB cooler. when I'm choosing a static color, it's working (blue is blue, green is green, etc..), but the rainbow effect isnt synchronize (ninja edit: yes it is sync if I'm calibrating it)
edit: One thing I noticed is when I was calibrating the stock cooler, when it was asking for the color. The order was 1-3-2 (red-blue-green). But now with the cablemod RGB led it's 1-2-3(red-green-blue). What's suppose to be the right order in the calibration setting? red-blue-green or red-green blue in the calibration?

I updated my BIOS and the new windows version (with the gaming mode) at the same time. Yesterday, I tried (in order) 1002 -> 0082 -> 1002 -> 0079 (now I have 0079). I also tried a reset of the PC (but I still have the last windows version)


CableMod has a small cable adapter, which crosses blue and green cable. It´s delivered with the stripes. Try it at the rgb-header.
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@elmor I noticed that the tool to change the cpu temp offsets doesn't work when super IO clock skew is disabled, complaining that something is not available/enabled. I assume this is expected? (but it may be necessary to note this for the tool usage so people don't get confused when it simply quits on them).

Thanks for it anyway. Also yeah it seems like something that causes a bug on the gpu and then the whole board during screen initialization. I'll have to wait for AMD.
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Added all this in OP of my thread, section RAM Info / Data Fabric (DFICLK) / Memory Stability testing > C6H UEFI 0079 onwards in ProcODT plus other settings to aid gaining RAM Speed .

+rep Gup ! For all your effort!!!

btw: new Goodies arrived today. Including a 1700. Lets see what we can do with this chip biggrin.gif
also ordered some Corsair rams, lets see if it easily can run on 3200mhz.




A lot of testings this weekend!
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CableMod has a small cable adapter, which crosses blue and green cable. It´s delivered with the stripes. Try it at the rgb-header.

oh wow, I forget about this!! It's working!!! Thank you so much biggrin.gif

edit: this is really stupid, why are they doing that since they doesnt sell a long adapter? (if someone know they answer)
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Few things I've noticed:

1) I haven't had to change the vcore on any of the new BIOS but I do not use an offset (just vcore and LLC).

2) It looks like Corsair LPX compatibility is considerably better but many with G.skill b-die that previously found it easy to get 3200 have had to modify previously working settings (myself included).

3) I have a very high frequency squeal with all four of the new BIOS (79, 81, 82, 83); I assume this is coming from the VRM. This was not present with 1002*.

All anecdotal of course but it would be interesting to see if this rings true for others.

* Settings:

CPU core ratio - 39.5
Memory freq - 3200 (14-14-14-14-34 with 1002 and 16-14-14-14-34 with 0079-0082)
LLC 5
DRAM Vboot 1.400 (1.375 was incorrect)
CPU core volt - 1.41875
CPU SOC volt - .950
DRAM volt - 1.3750 (1.350 on 1002)
1.8v PLL volt - 1.800

All else set to defaults.
Edited by madweazl - 4/8/17 at 6:21am
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