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Yes, this makes sense; 0902 probably is more stable; the 0902 CAP file was compiled 11:29 AM. However, the 1002 file was compiled at 2:54 AM. What good can come from a work completed at that time...

It appears that you have discovered another critical parameter -- compilation time -- in the n-dimensional parameter space of BIOS tuning. Good work!

Will no one rid us of these meddlesome BIOS complexities?
     
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I have no idea why everyone is trying to overclock with P states. I have been overclocking for 20 years and see no need. Just set your multiplier and manual volts to get stable, seriously all that effort to have the chip downclock when idle really does nothing. I mean at 3.9ghz and 1.387v or whatever you achieve, when idle your temps, watts, and energy used is not any higher than P states, well not significantly. I mean if you want to save ten cents a year for all that trouble, well go ahead. I only see a use for P states in laptops, period.

On another note I have a very odd ram situation. I went all out on some G.skill 3600 C16 2X8 kit because I figured 3600 would be supported eventually, and surely it is B die and would do 3200 Cas 12. Well this kit won't do 3200 mhz at ANY settings or overvolting at all, just fails and drops to 2133. The funny thing is it is perfectly happy running at BCLK 104 which gives it a 3326 ram speed at Cas 14. For some reason 3200 mhz is my memory hole, lol. But I am great with 3326, anything much higher starts failing memtests because of the high BCLK problem. This is all on 1002, not going to try beta bioses as it took me 2 weeks to dial in all this correctly and tested. But if any of you getting 3600 from you kits at a reasonable voltage, please tell me which bios and all your settings as well as how you got the computer stable with high BCLK. thanks

At idle pstate draws about 10-15watts (for me) less than a manual voltage, drops temps a couple degrees as well.
Edited by sr1030nx - 4/8/17 at 8:18pm
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Right, 10 watts on an overclocked gaming system that idles at 180w and runs at 450w is not worth messing with P states to me. 10 watts is a freaking nigh light, lol. Like I said it might makes sense for a laptop on battery, but that is about it.
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Pre-0079 my reason was because of getting ram speeds because I needed to increase BCLK. Now that Pstates accept manual Bclk increases theres really not too much reason not to OC using Pstate 0. You'll get your same speed, and if you bother with AI Suite like I do you can conveniently change speed and voltages and it wont break your Pstate idling. it is a little clunky how you have to edit Pstate speed using hex codes tho...

The downside is one: Windows balanced power plan sucks @ stock, and running high performance plan defeats the purpose of OC'ing with P states as it will always run in Pstate0 anyway.

And in my case i cant get Ryzen balanced plan to install. But to work around this, i went and unlocked every processor power management option via regedit and made seemingly good adjustments to whatever I could make sense of.
post #7945 of 16971
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Right, 10 watts on an overclocked gaming system that idles at 180w and runs at 450w is not worth messing with P states to me. 10 watts is a freaking nigh light, lol. Like I said it might makes sense for a laptop on battery, but that is about it.

maybe so, but there are people like me who don't like to turn their pc's off, ever.

So, that 10w or however much it really turns out to be adds up overtime on the power bill for 24/7 users. Sometimes I'm not even idling cuz i leave games open ! which yea defeats the purpose yet again.

Oh and apparently in germany or wherever, that 10w is the difference between life and death! (one person literally unplugs the pc from the wall for power down due to this...)
Edited by Reikoji - 4/8/17 at 8:27pm
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Speaking of Ryzen Balanced power plan. I have a request for whoever could get that thing installed.

Could one please also enable all of the processor power management options in regedit and take screenshots of what the settings in Ryzen Balanced power plan are? Can make adjustments to windows stock balanced power plan with that.
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I tried to edit my post a few above this one, but it seems it was eaten.
For me, pstate uses 10-13watts less than manual set voltage on 3.85ghz.

On another note, the creaters update seems to improve my cinebench score slightly, both single and multicore. Picture below, with no cheating bios setting 😒
Like others, I seem to occasionally get a small system freeze but no errors in event viewer with creators update.



0083 bios
29330ram

The bottom two 3.85 and the single 3.9 scores are on anniversary update , 0038 bios and 2666 ram.
post #7948 of 16971
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Like others, I seem to occasionally get a small system freeze but no errors in event viewer with creators update.
I get this also. But only when fully stressing CPU. I know for sure it happens with IBT and IBT AVX, plus RealBench stress test, because you can tell that the pauses are happening due to the displays. It may happen during other stress tests, but I cannot tell. It happens at full Auto settings and fully overclocked.

It doesn't happen during gaming or any other normal usage.

Mine has been happening since day one, with all BIOS revisions and both Anniversary and Creator versions of Windows 10. I have tried many BIOS settings to see if I could get it to stop, but no luck. I'm thinking of trying a new CPU and mainboard to see if that does it too.
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post #7949 of 16971
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I get this also. But only when fully stressing CPU. I know for sure it happens with IBT and IBT AVX, plus RealBench stress test, because you can tell that the pauses are happening due to the displays. It may happen during other stress tests, but I cannot tell. It happens at full Auto settings and fully overclocked.

It doesn't happen during gaming or any other normal usage.

Mine has been happening since day one, with all BIOS revisions and both Anniversary and Creator versions of Windows 10. I have tried many BIOS settings to see if I could get it to stop, but no luck. I'm thinking of trying a new CPU and mainboard to see if that does it too.

Are you guys getting random stutters while not under load? If you are while under load, especially things like IBT-AVX that use up all your memory, then that is completely normal. as long as I have at least 1000MB of free memory, I don't get any stutters.
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Originally Posted by MNMadman View Post

I get this also. But only when fully stressing CPU. I know for sure it happens with IBT and IBT AVX, plus RealBench stress test, because you can tell that the pauses are happening due to the displays. It may happen during other stress tests, but I cannot tell. It happens at full Auto settings and fully overclocked.

It doesn't happen during gaming or any other normal usage.

Mine has been happening since day one, with all BIOS revisions and both Anniversary and Creator versions of Windows 10. I have tried many BIOS settings to see if I could get it to stop, but no luck. I'm thinking of trying a new CPU and mainboard to see if that does it too.

I doubt its a problem with anyones CPU or mobo that causes this. Theres probably something shadey going on in the backround of the creator update redface.gif

Also... this website seems to be trying to open a lot of shadey looking pages rapidly, which causes me to have stutter while its open. I'm using chrome.
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