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post #8051 of 17131
Below my first test-results and feedback with current bios versions:
After several hours testing i do have mixed feeling for now. Need more time to test better!
The new bios version are definitely better if it comes to bug-fixes/compatibility!
But in same time i needed more vcore to past some tests/benches! Need definitely more
time for fine-tuning and testing the new bios features/options.

I'm now sticking with 0081, because this version will be the next release.
Going to fine-tune and play around! Will update more info later.

What i used for basic testing:

  • IBT 10 Passes Standart
  • Realbench stresstest 15-30minutes
  • AIDA64 system-stress-test 15minutes
  • AIDA64 Bench Memory
  • Cinbench R15

Testing Rig:

  • CPU: 1800x
  • Memory: 16GB (2x8) Gskill F4-3200C14D-16GTZR
  • Cooling: Kraken x62
  • PSU: Cooler Master v850
  • VGA: RX480

Before these tests i used Bios version 1002, and was stable & WHEA error free with following settings:

  • OC Type: Pstates
  • Clocks: 4000Mhz
  • Dram: 3200Mhz
  • Vcore: +offset 0.0625v
  • LLC: Level 1
  • Dram: 1.35v
  • Vscoc: 1.15v
  • Timings: 14 14 14 14 34


Bios version: 0079:

- Needed more vcore to pas IBT (+offset 0.6825v/ Not checked WHEA errors)
- Cold boot issue better, not completely fixed without some magic
- Faster Boot time
- ~5% performance boost
- No magic for 3200mhz ram boot
- Core VID HWiNFO Fixed


Bios version: 0081:

- Needed more vcore to pas IBT without WHEA Errors (+offset 0.6825v) + LLC2
- Cold boot issue better, not completely fixed without some magic
- Faster Boot time
- ~5% performance boost
- No magic for 3200mhz ram boot
- Core VID HWiNFO Fixed
- Changed to 1.4v RAM for better results


Bios version: 0082:

- Needed more vcore to pas IBT without WHEA Errors (+offset 0.6825v) + LLC2
- Cold boot issue better, not completely fixed without some magic
- Faster Boot time
- ~5% performance boost
- No magic for 3200mhz ram boot
- Core VID HWiNFO Fixed
- Changed to 1.4v RAM for better results

Bios version: 0083:

- Needed more vcore to pas IBT without WHEA Errors (+offset 0.6825v) + LLC2
- Cold boot issue issue not solved! Re-Plug AC cable gave me post-cycles
- "Overclocking failed error" every time when i reboot with case-button
- Faster Boot time
- ~5% performance boost
- Core VID HWiNFO Fixed
- Needed 2 tries before got 3200mhz booted
- A bit slower in AIDA64 Memory Benchmark


Below you can find screenshots i made during the tests/benches.
All ordered to bios versions:

1002
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0079
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0081

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0082
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0083
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Edited by majestynl - 4/9/17 at 8:32am
post #8052 of 17131
Memory (DRAM) performance is all about the relationship between speed and latency. While the two are closely related, they're not connected in the way you might think. Here's how speed and latency are related at a technical level – and how you can use this information to optimize your memory's performance.

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Originally Posted by Reikoji View Post

Offset mode, + auto. 109.2 Bclk, 2933 Dram strap, 18-16-16-16-38-1T, Global C-states enabled, Pstate 0 set 93 for FID (3675 mhz).
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Originally Posted by jugs View Post

I can't get it to stick even after setting the pstates again after BCLK, what are your settings like?

Guys are you trying to change the BCLK in the tweakers Page in combination with Pstates?
As far as i know if you want to use increased BCLK in Pstates mode, you need to change the Pstates values.

More detailed information about Pstats and pre made calculations: Link
post #8054 of 17131
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Originally Posted by majestynl View Post

Guys are you trying to change the BCLK in the tweakers Page in combination with Pstates?
As far as i know if you want to use increased BCLK in Pstates mode, you need to change the Pstates values.

More detailed information about Pstats and pre made calculations: Link

indeed, thats why i use FID 93 for 3675 mhz with 109.2 blk, gives me my 4.012 ghz.

I made figuring out what I needed Pstate speed to be easy by simply taking the speed and treating it like a multiplier. 3675 is simply 36.75 multiplier.

In later bios hopefully they will make Pstate FID change account for your blck increase in view so you dont need to do calculations.
Edited by Reikoji - 4/9/17 at 9:03am
post #8055 of 17131
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Originally Posted by majestynl View Post


Guys are you trying to change the BCLK in the tweakers Page in combination with Pstates?
As far as i know if you want to use increased BCLK in Pstates mode, you need to change the Pstates values.

More detailed information about Pstats and pre made calculations: Link

Yes I have a custom p-state 0 and trying to add a BCLK in tweakers page as well to get a combo for RAM OC >3200.
post #8056 of 17131
I missed the thing about P-States. Can anyone tell me why are they important or desirable in my rig?

And how to configure for a 1700 / 3.9Ghz CPU with standard 100.0 BCLK and 3200Mhz RAM
post #8057 of 17131
Another easy way to figure out way to figure out what FID to set your P-state 0 to is to change Extreme tweaker cpu multiplier with the BCLK increased until you get to your desired speed. Remember that multiplier and set it back to auto, then change the the Pstate 0 FID to that same "multiplier" and voila.
post #8058 of 17131
How low Memory, Cache L1, Cache L2, Cache L3 latency you can go? biggrin.gif



My Ryzen 5 post impressed result with 1002 BIOS. thumb.gif
post #8059 of 17131
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Originally Posted by Frikencio View Post

I missed the thing about P-States. Can anyone tell me why are they important or desirable in my rig?

And how to configure for a 1700 / 3.9Ghz CPU with standard 100.0 BCLK and 3200Mhz RAM

Allows more idle-stating of processor so you can save a bit power bill money. Its not THAT much more, but its something. Tho its useless without a properly set up balanced power plan, preferablly Ryzen Balanced power plan. Higher performance plan with altered minimum processor state may work too tho havent tried.
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Originally Posted by jugs View Post

Yes I have a custom p-state 0 and trying to add a BCLK in tweakers page as well to get a combo for RAM OC >3200.

Still having trouble getting it?
Edited by Reikoji - 4/9/17 at 9:17am
post #8060 of 17131
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Originally Posted by jugs View Post

Yes I have a custom p-state 0 and trying to add a BCLK in tweakers page as well to get a combo for RAM OC >3200.

What clockspeed do you get if you boot into Windows? Does it downclock or stay at a value?
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