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@madweazl

SOC maybe something you wanna tweak chap. VCORE does core and cache.

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I have been, just not sure how far I can go headscratch.gif

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That's exactly where I am also at wink.gif Though I want to try underclocking later to make sure vcore is adequate.

Elmor's OC guide PDF in OP, bottom of page 6 > 4. Safe voltage ranges wink.gif .
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What is the "safe" range for ProcODT settings? There isn't any real documentation on it, so I'm hesitant to tweak it without understanding. I've read people putting it in the 80's, but I don't know if that is safe and what that is actually doing?

I went up to 80, and didn't go beyond in order to POST at 2933(on the memory I have). Even then, I saw my machine was acting strange, and a couple of BSoD issues made me pull it back to 2667 and auto for the value. In May, AMD should release the next update for the BIOS, and 1-3 weeks after that is when we should get the BIOS versions based on it. With any luck, that will fix the memory issues that SOME people have had.

I just look at my system performance and while I am going to tweak with it to improve my performance, I don't feel I need to go to extremes to be satisfied with my build.
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Guys, coming from multiple Intel builds over the years and a stringent rule that stable is only if passes all of Intel Burn Test levels. Normally this will increase cpu temps about 20C, but previous i5 and i7s all pass with same or minor voltage bump. On my Ryzen 1700, I can pass every other benchmark (realbench, prime, etc.) at 3900mhz and about 1.3875v LLC3. 3.9 is my wall basically. And can even pass the quick IBT standard, However to pass IBT at Maximum it requires a downclock to 3850mhz and a large increase in volts to about 1.43v. So my question is IBT puts an ungodly demand on a cpu, but Intel chips always pass it at same voltage or close and at same speed. This Ryzen needs to lower clock 50mhz and increase volts about .05! So is this test valid or am I being too hard on what I consider 100% stability? For a daily driver where all important information is stored and used, does Ryzen need to pass IBT at maximum or is there something that is causing this test to not work with Ryzen or be brutal on it, since no real world scenario will ever be like IBT maximum. Thanks

P.S. Do you think upgrading to an 1800x would solve this problem or get me 4ghz stable? I still have time to return this chip, it just seems that putting 1.43v into it to get 3.85Ghz is really a bad idea for 24/7/365.

From my exepirience if i can pass 3xmaximum its stable. If i cant pass that then when encoding videos from gopro system can crash. Thats why i see IBT as best torture stability test out there followed by Realbench then prime and lastAida.

Before im moving to IBT max i first run very high as fast check.
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Elmor's OC guide PDF in OP, bottom of page 6 > 4. Safe voltage ranges wink.gif .

Yea, I've seen that posted and that is what I've used for the most part but it seems other sources are saying 1.25 is OK as well.

It has been toasty here today and I believe the issue is temperature related; once my CPU (tctl) breaks about 71° the stability looks to go down the toilet. I need EK to finish up that monoblock so I can get back to work.

Edit: thinking about this some more, I've actually had this overclock (3.9) quite a bit higher (tctl wise) before without issue. I wonder if something else on the motherboard is getting to toasty? Something else to investigate I guess.
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Hi Elmor,

The current version of AIsuite Im using is 1.01.72 (the latest version from the Asus main site at time of writing). The version I used with the z97-a was 1.01.49. The crosshair VI hero and ryzen has gone into an existing system with known working cooling setup. Its all water cooling. The pump is powered from the psu so not from the motherboard, it just gives rpms back to the wpump header for monitoring. The fans are split into three groups of three using pwm fan pslitters. These are connected to the chassis fan headers. I have an aquacomputer in line water temperature sensor plugged into the temperature in header on the crosshair. This shows up correctly in the bios and AIsuite with the water temp. I use this as the input for the fan curve in the bios. I also do the same with AIsuite.

The issue is that the fans dont follow the fan curves. They either run at the minimum speed (around 250rpm) or flat out. there is no in between. if I use only the bios (no AIsuite installed) to control it, the fans ramp up instantly to 100% and down to 15% at either end of the curve. If I use AIsuite, they ramp up, but NEVER ramp down until I restart.

The fans are Noctua NF-f12 pwm fans.

The same hardware worked flawlessly on the older Asus z97-a board configured with the either the bios or AIsuite. I know there are a lot of issues to work through with the bioses currently, and appreciate all the work thats going in :-)
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Hi Elmor,

The current version of AIsuite Im using is 1.01.72 (the latest version from the Asus main site at time of writing). The version I used with the z97-a was 1.01.49. The crosshair VI hero and ryzen has gone into an existing system with known working cooling setup. Its all water cooling. The pump is powered from the psu so not from the motherboard, it just gives rpms back to the wpump header for monitoring. The fans are split into three groups of three using pwm fan pslitters. These are connected to the chassis fan headers. I have an aquacomputer in line water temperature sensor plugged into the temperature in header on the crosshair. This shows up correctly in the bios and AIsuite with the water temp. I use this as the input for the fan curve in the bios. I also do the same with AIsuite.

The issue is that the fans dont follow the fan curves. They either run at the minimum speed (around 250rpm) or flat out. there is no in between. if I use only the bios (no AIsuite installed) to control it, the fans ramp up instantly to 100% and down to 15% at either end of the curve. If I use AIsuite, they ramp up, but NEVER ramp down until I restart.

The fans are Noctua NF-f12 pwm fans.

The same hardware worked flawlessly on the older Asus z97-a board configured with the either the bios or AIsuite. I know there are a lot of issues to work through with the bioses currently, and appreciate all the work thats going in :-)

I know this may be a crazy question, but for the fans, do you have them set to PWM or DC in the BIOS?
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I know this may be a crazy question, but for the fans, do you have them set to PWM or DC in the BIOS?

Yeah. Just checked again in the bios and they are all set to pwm.
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Nothing abnormally toasty; pretty sure the OC (CPU+Mem) just isnt stable at those temps. 3500 does work fine like another member had posted earlier. More tweaks...
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Ok, finally getting my Ryzen build possibly this Wednesday, just after Windows 10 Creators Update thumb.gif

Anyone on stable Ryzen build atm? If so, could someone PLEASE share their settings?

My PC parts:
Ryzen 1700X
Asus ROG Crosshair VI (which BIOS should I use - 1002 or those just released?)
G.Skill RipJaws V 16GB 3200CL14
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Ok, finally getting my Ryzen build possibly this Wednesday, just after Windows 10 Creators Update thumb.gif

Anyone on stable Ryzen build atm? If so, could someone PLEASE share their settings?

My PC parts:
Ryzen 1700X
Asus ROG Crosshair VI (which BIOS should I use - 1002 or those just released?)
G.Skill RipJaws V 16GB 3200CL14
Corsair TX650
EVGA 980Ti
Noctua NH-D14 (modified version + fans replaced with JetFlo 120 RED LED)

BIOS 0082. For 4 sticks 0083 is better for stability.

You can try 40x multiplier and starting with 1.4v. There you can go up or down depending on stability.
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