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Oh absolutely...

I was mainly pointing the the commonality of potential clock speeds. A 4.0 1700 is far more rare than a 4.0 1800x

And in the event of undervolting you can get a nice quiet system because that 1700 will be more efficient.
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There's a 4.0Ghz 1700 available for $120 less. Just saying.
am i reading their web page correctly? are they selling 1700x and 1800x's for LESS than retail msrp? i see them selling a 1800x they certify for 3.9ghz for $479.99 and a 1700x @ 3.8ghz for $344.99.... while 1700x and 1800x sell msrp for $399 and $499 respectfully.
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Originally Posted by muffins View Post

am i reading their web page correctly? are they selling 1700x and 1800x's for LESS than retail msrp? i see them selling a 1800x they certify for 3.9ghz for $479.99 and a 1700x @ 3.8ghz for $344.99.... while 1700x and 1800x sell msrp for $399 and $499 respectfully.

Yes, apparently they discount the worst binned chips to get rid of them, and more than make up the profit on the premium prices for the highest binned chips.
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I have the G.Skill Trident Z RGB 2x8GB 3200MHz CL14 kit with part number F4-3200C14D-16GTZR. These are running on my ASUS C6H board with a Ryzen 1700. Memory modules have the serial number where digit five starts A500 so supposedly they are Samsung B-Die.

Thought I would post my experience so far with the memory as I've seen a lot of people with the same memory either say (1) this memory should work with no tweaks or (2) it is not working for them.

So far I have been unable to get 3200MHz stable with any timings, voltages, 1T/2T, and every beta UEFI released to date (including 1001, 1002, 0079, 0081, 0082, 0083).

I have reset UEFI to defaults, no other overclocking, and tried to set memory both via DOCP and manual. Also tried setting DRAM voltage & boot voltage to 1.45v, SoC to 1.2v, loosened memory timings to 18-18-18-38, tried ProcODT up to 80, etc. I have tried one change at a time and then multiple changes together. Nothing works for 3200MHz -- the system just attempts training, fails with code 0d, reboots, and resets to 2133MHz.

Running the kit at 2933MHz with its rated timings of 14-14-14-34 and 1.35v works great -- no issues at all.

I have gone through every single page of this thread, up to this point, and have tried so many suggestions that those before me have posted. I emailed G.Skill support explaining what I have tried so far and their response was "try one module at a time and try more SoC voltage" however that has not helped. I am waiting for another response back from them although they are replying rather slow.

At this point I have a few days left to either keep the memory or return it and try something else. I did order another kit of the exact same memory and will try that -- thinking perhaps the first set I ordered has some defect.
post #8295 of 17572
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Originally Posted by Reikoji View Post

another question is do you want to potentially exceed the voltage level considered good for day to day or do you want better load compensation...

Again, you've lost me. You can have both of those with the appropriate LLC (be it 1 or 5).
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I have the G.Skill Trident Z RGB 2x8GB 3200MHz CL14 kit with part number F4-3200C14D-16GTZR. These are running on my ASUS C6H board with a Ryzen 1700. Memory modules have the serial number where digit five starts A500 so supposedly they are Samsung B-Die.

Thought I would post my experience so far with the memory as I've seen a lot of people with the same memory either say (1) this memory should work with no tweaks or (2) it is not working for them.

So far I have been unable to get 3200MHz stable with any timings, voltages, 1T/2T, and every beta UEFI released to date (including 1001, 1002, 0079, 0081, 0082, 0083).

I have reset UEFI to defaults, no other overclocking, and tried to set memory both via DOCP and manual. Also tried setting DRAM voltage & boot voltage to 1.45v, SoC to 1.2v, loosened memory timings to 18-18-18-38, tried ProcODT up to 80, etc. I have tried one change at a time and then multiple changes together. Nothing works for 3200MHz -- the system just attempts training, fails with code 0d, reboots, and resets to 2133MHz.

Running the kit at 2933MHz with its rated timings of 14-14-14-34 and 1.35v works great -- no issues at all.

I have gone through every single page of this thread, up to this point, and have tried so many suggestions that those before me have posted. I emailed G.Skill support explaining what I have tried so far and their response was "try one module at a time and try more SoC voltage" however that has not helped. I am waiting for another response back from them although they are replying rather slow.

At this point I have a few days left to either keep the memory or return it and try something else. I did order another kit of the exact same memory and will try that -- thinking perhaps the first set I ordered has some defect.
either the imc in your 1700 simply can't handle 3200 or some issue with the ram. i'm leaning more towards the 1700 since i've seen a few posts over the month of people not able to hit higher than 2933mhz, even with samsung single rank chips after trying different kits. ryzen only officially, as of now, supports up to 2666mhz ratio. anything higher is considered an overclock. there's some more restrictions and exceptions but generally speaking, 2666mhz is the official max.
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Yes, apparently they discount the worst binned chips to get rid of them, and more than make up the profit on the premium prices for the highest binned chips.
wow. can save a few if you don't care hitting the highest clocks.
Edited by muffins - 4/10/17 at 2:52pm
post #8297 of 17572
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either the imc in your 1700 simply can't handle 3200 or some issue with the ram. i'm leaning more towards the 1700 since i've seen a few posts over the month of people not able to hit higher than 2933mhz, even with samsung single rank chips after trying different kits. ryzen only officially, as of now, supports up to 2666mhz ratio. anything higher is considered an overclock.
wow. can save a few if you don't care hitting the highest clocks.

I've gone through 2 x G.Skill 14-14-14-34 kits, both same, can't boot at 3200 consistently.

it's either the board or the CPU, but that's the weird thing tho that i've said before, if I bump the vboot up it will boot on the 3rd go every time, except on a windows reboot.
post #8298 of 17572
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Originally Posted by Frikencio View Post

So I am getting:

3.9Ghz: 1.45625v / LLC4 (1.46v real)
3.85Ghz: 1.35v / LLC3 (1.33-1.35v real)

Can this be true?

This lowers my load temps from 72ºC to 58ºC (h115i AM3 / Silent Fan / Silent Pump)

Yea, that is a huge increase in voltage relatively speaking.
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0604 reportedly with AGESA update is out for Prime X370-Pro on Asus server (change link manually from 0515 to 0604).

Any ETA for the C6H "unattainable" in Raja's words release (not a test version)? And will 1102 have the microcode or wait till 0079 gets tested?
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Originally Posted by SpecChum View Post

I've gone through 2 x G.Skill 14-14-14-34 kits, both same, can't boot at 3200 consistently.

it's either the board or the CPU, but that's the weird thing tho that i've said before, if I bump the vboot up it will boot on the 3rd go every time, except on a windows reboot.
oh without a doubt it could be the board too. i've seen some behavior differences with the same exact kit on both my crosshair and my previous gaming 5, such as two boots to post when cold or warm booting after being off for a few hours at 3200mhz with my crosshair while my gaming 5 never had such an issue.

but when it comes to hitting 3200mhz, or even 2933mhz, i've seen people on different boards complain of the same issue. even after trying different kits. i've seen a few complain they couldn't even boot at 2133mhz, with different kits. which really makes me believe its the cpu imc.
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