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post #8301 of 17495
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Originally Posted by muffins View Post

oh without a doubt it could be the board too. i've seen some behavior differences with the same exact kit on both my crosshair and my previous gaming 5, such as two boots to post when cold or warm booting after being off for a few hours at 3200mhz with my crosshair while my gaming 5 never had such an issue.

but when it comes to hitting 3200mhz, or even 2933mhz, i've seen people on different boards complain of the same issue. even after trying different kits. i've seen a few complain they couldn't even boot at 2133mhz, with different kits. which really makes me believe its the cpu imc.

Yeah, plus I get a different code to everyone else. Most seem to get F9 -> 0d but I get F9 -> 8 then obviously a reboot.
Edited by SpecChum - 4/10/17 at 3:01pm
post #8302 of 17495
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Originally Posted by 1TM1 View Post

0604 reportedly with AGESA update is out for Prime X370-Pro on Asus server (change link manually from 0515 to 0604).

Any ETA for the C6H "unattainable" in Raja's words release (not a test version)? And will 1102 have the microcode or wait till 0079 gets tested?

0079 went to 0081, 0082, and 0083. Since 0081 is a 1T BIOS, the release version won't be great for those with 2T memory(again). 0083 works fairly well, though my memory won't work at 2933, it is ALMOST there.
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I have the G.Skill Trident Z RGB 2x8GB 3200MHz CL14 kit with part number F4-3200C14D-16GTZR. These are running on my ASUS C6H board with a Ryzen 1700. Memory modules have the serial number where digit five starts A500 so supposedly they are Samsung B-Die.

Thought I would post my experience so far with the memory as I've seen a lot of people with the same memory either say (1) this memory should work with no tweaks or (2) it is not working for them.

So far I have been unable to get 3200MHz stable with any timings, voltages, 1T/2T, and every beta UEFI released to date (including 1001, 1002, 0079, 0081, 0082, 0083).

I have reset UEFI to defaults, no other overclocking, and tried to set memory both via DOCP and manual. Also tried setting DRAM voltage & boot voltage to 1.45v, SoC to 1.2v, loosened memory timings to 18-18-18-38, tried ProcODT up to 80, etc. I have tried one change at a time and then multiple changes together. Nothing works for 3200MHz -- the system just attempts training, fails with code 0d, reboots, and resets to 2133MHz.

Running the kit at 2933MHz with its rated timings of 14-14-14-34 and 1.35v works great -- no issues at all.

I have gone through every single page of this thread, up to this point, and have tried so many suggestions that those before me have posted. I emailed G.Skill support explaining what I have tried so far and their response was "try one module at a time and try more SoC voltage" however that has not helped. I am waiting for another response back from them although they are replying rather slow.

At this point I have a few days left to either keep the memory or return it and try something else. I did order another kit of the exact same memory and will try that -- thinking perhaps the first set I ordered has some defect.

Not sure of my serial number, but I'm in the same situation with the same kit. Mine were made March 2017...I do remember that.
post #8304 of 17495
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Originally Posted by muffins View Post

either the imc in your 1700 simply can't handle 3200 or some issue with the ram. i'm leaning more towards the 1700 since i've seen a few posts over the month of people not able to hit higher than 2933mhz, even with samsung single rank chips after trying different kits. ryzen only officially, as of now, supports up to 2666mhz ratio. anything higher is considered an overclock. there's some more restrictions and exceptions but generally speaking, 2666mhz is the official max.
wow. can save a few if you don't care hitting the highest clocks.

I did just get a response from G.Skill which may lead to something here with the 1700 just being unable to do 3200MHz memory reliably. See the question and response from my email with G.Skill below --

Tyrluk: Are you aware of any issue with the Ryzen CPU integrated memory controller where they would *not* be able to run the memory at 3200MHz?
G.Skill: Yes, generally the 1800X or 1700X is required for DDR4-3200.
post #8305 of 17495
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Originally Posted by Tyrluk View Post

I did just get a response from G.Skill which may lead to something here with the 1700 just being unable to do 3200MHz memory reliably. See the question and response from my email with G.Skill below --

Tyrluk: Are you aware of any issue with the Ryzen CPU integrated memory controller where they would *not* be able to run the memory at 3200MHz?
G.Skill: Yes, generally the 1800X or 1700X is required for DDR4-3200.

Do i hear reason to get at bare minimum 1700x?!

well 1700 is still a good budget 8core. it still comes down to the silicone lottery.
post #8306 of 17495
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Originally Posted by Tyrluk View Post

I did just get a response from G.Skill which may lead to something here with the 1700 just being unable to do 3200MHz memory reliably. See the question and response from my email with G.Skill below --

Tyrluk: Are you aware of any issue with the Ryzen CPU integrated memory controller where they would *not* be able to run the memory at 3200MHz?
G.Skill: Yes, generally the 1800X or 1700X is required for DDR4-3200.

I don't buy that to be honest, they're voltage binned; I have doubts the IMC is even tested above 2666Mhz as that's the "official" limits..

Anyone here with an X chip that can't get 3200 with B-Die?
post #8307 of 17495
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Originally Posted by Tyrluk View Post

I did just get a response from G.Skill which may lead to something here with the 1700 just being unable to do 3200MHz memory reliably. See the question and response from my email with G.Skill below --

Tyrluk: Are you aware of any issue with the Ryzen CPU integrated memory controller where they would *not* be able to run the memory at 3200MHz?
G.Skill: Yes, generally the 1800X or 1700X is required for DDR4-3200.

Sounds like a convenient excuse but who knows.
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post #8308 of 17495
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Originally Posted by Tyrluk View Post

I did just get a response from G.Skill which may lead to something here with the 1700 just being unable to do 3200MHz memory reliably. See the question and response from my email with G.Skill below --

Tyrluk: Are you aware of any issue with the Ryzen CPU integrated memory controller where they would *not* be able to run the memory at 3200MHz?
G.Skill: Yes, generally the 1800X or 1700X is required for DDR4-3200.


I feel like this is how false rumors get started.
post #8309 of 17495
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Originally Posted by y0bailey View Post

I feel like this is how false rumors get started.

I've already told all my friends.
post #8310 of 17495
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Originally Posted by Reikoji View Post

Do i hear reason to get at bare minimum 1700x?!

well 1700 is still a good budget 8core. it still comes down to the silicone lottery.

I had 3200-16 (TridentZ with Hynix M-die) run fine with 1800X at 3200-16 on two motherboards (C6H bios 0702 and X370-Pro bios 0502) then no better than 2933 with 1700X (tried bios 0502, 0504, 0511, 0515). Reverted to 1800X. Easy both times at 3200 just set speed and timings and it works.
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