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Originally Posted by 1TM1 View Post

I had 3200-16 (TridentZ with Hynix M-die) run fine with 1800X at 3200-16 on two motherboards (C6H bios 0702 and X370-Pro bios 0502) then no better than 2933 with 1700X (tried bios 0502, 0504, 0511, 0515). Reverted to 1800X. Easy both times at 3200 just set speed and timings and it works.

Silicone lottery smile.gif Maybe ram lottery to boot.
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Uhh... If this is true why does my 1700 run fine at 3.9ghz and 3600mhz 16-16-16-16-36-1T 1.37v? I can boot at 4.2ghz from testing just the temps/voltage are a issue for me at 24/7 (due to this I never tried to get 4.2 stable.) Boot and stable are two different games.
post #8313 of 17325
This really ins't an overclocking question sorry. I am deciding on which fans to buy. I am going with be quiet! Silentwings 3 High Speed 120mm fans. They make them in both PWM and non-PWM versions. I am in Canada and can't find the PWM versions here. I could get the PWM versions from the US at a slightly higher cost. It there any real advantages/disadvantages to either PWM or non-PWM on this motherboard? Will both use the same amount of power at the same speeds?
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Originally Posted by Tyrluk View Post

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I have the G.Skill Trident Z RGB 2x8GB 3200MHz CL14 kit with part number F4-3200C14D-16GTZR. These are running on my ASUS C6H board with a Ryzen 1700. Memory modules have the serial number where digit five starts A500 so supposedly they are Samsung B-Die.

Thought I would post my experience so far with the memory as I've seen a lot of people with the same memory either say (1) this memory should work with no tweaks or (2) it is not working for them.

So far I have been unable to get 3200MHz stable with any timings, voltages, 1T/2T, and every beta UEFI released to date (including 1001, 1002, 0079, 0081, 0082, 0083).

I have reset UEFI to defaults, no other overclocking, and tried to set memory both via DOCP and manual. Also tried setting DRAM voltage & boot voltage to 1.45v, SoC to 1.2v, loosened memory timings to 18-18-18-38, tried ProcODT up to 80, etc. I have tried one change at a time and then multiple changes together. Nothing works for 3200MHz -- the system just attempts training, fails with code 0d, reboots, and resets to 2133MHz.

Running the kit at 2933MHz with its rated timings of 14-14-14-34 and 1.35v works great -- no issues at all.

I have gone through every single page of this thread, up to this point, and have tried so many suggestions that those before me have posted. I emailed G.Skill support explaining what I have tried so far and their response was "try one module at a time and try more SoC voltage" however that has not helped. I am waiting for another response back from them although they are replying rather slow.

At this point I have a few days left to either keep the memory or return it and try something else. I did order another kit of the exact same memory and will try that -- thinking perhaps the first set I ordered has some defect.

Your CPU reads like my 1st CPU, it would do 2933MHz 14-14-14-34-1T with stock VBOOT/VDIMM and small bump to SOC (0.825V to 0.900V). But it would not do 3200MHz wilth even the VCORE for 3.9GHz OC on 3.8GHz, even SOC upto 1.05V did not help.

My 2nd CPU does 3200MHz like "a duck to water". Both are R7 1700.
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I have three different G.Skill 3200-CL14 kits here (Ripjaws V, Flare X, TridentZ, they all seem to more reliably post/boot at full speed when I use BLCK OC + 2400 profile compared to using 100 BCLK + 3200 profile. I find this kind of strange, because the 2400 profile is even supposed to use more aggressive timings and the BCLK OC is another variable for stability.

Currently I am trying to get 3600-14-16-16 stable. Before I tried 3200-12-14-14-14.
Edited by Timur Born - 4/10/17 at 3:30pm
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Originally Posted by Timur Born View Post

I have three different G.Skill 3200-CL14 kits here (Ripjaws V, Flare X, TridentZ, they all seem to more reliably post/boot at full speed when I use BLCK OC + 2400 profile compared to using 100 BCLK + 3200 profile. I find this kind of strange, because the 2400 profile is even supposed to use more aggressive timings and the BCLK OC is another variable for stability.

Currently I am trying to get 3600-14-16-16 stable. Seems to need quite some voltage on DRAM, though. Before I tried 3200-12-14-14-14.

Have you been able to get your 64gb set reasonably beyond 3200?
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Originally Posted by SpecChum View Post

I don't buy that to be honest, they're voltage binned; I have doubts the IMC is even tested above 2666Mhz as that's the "official" limits..

Anyone here with an X chip that can't get 3200 with B-Die?

Right, I would not have thought that to be a possible root cause either.

Especially given that AMD posted a picture of a Ryzen 1700 running DDR4-3400 on an ASUS C6H board on 2017-02-27.
https://twitter.com/AMDRyzen/status/836285599636127744

Not trying to start unsubstantiated rumors here -- just reporting back the response I received directly from G.Skill support.

At this point I am just stumped. I will probably buy a second CPU to test out -- although I am a little wary of getting one that *does* run memory at 3200MHz but does not overclock as well as my 3.9GHz proc today.
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So I decided to go back to BIOS 1002 to get a comparison on Cinebench and AIDA. Cinebench was set to Realtime, and Perf BIAS on AUTO. Here are my results.


post #8319 of 17325
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Originally Posted by Tyrluk View Post

Right, I would not have thought that to be a possible root cause either.

Especially given that AMD posted a picture of a Ryzen 1700 running DDR4-3400 on an ASUS C6H board on 2017-02-27.
https://twitter.com/AMDRyzen/status/836285599636127744

Not trying to start unsubstantiated rumors here -- just reporting back the response I received directly from G.Skill support.

At this point I am just stumped. I will probably buy a second CPU to test out -- although I am a little wary of getting one that *does* run memory at 3200MHz but does not overclock as well as my 3.9GHz proc today.

Plus something The Stilt said the other day; I can't find the actual quote (I've not looked to be honest, I'm lazy tongue.gif ) but it was something like "3200 is not the limit of the IMC, in fact we're no where near it"
post #8320 of 17325
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Originally Posted by Timur Born View Post

I have three different G.Skill 3200-CL14 kits here (Ripjaws V, Flare X, TridentZ, they all seem to more reliably post/boot at full speed when I use BLCK OC + 2400 profile compared to using 100 BCLK + 3200 profile. I find this kind of strange, because the 2400 profile is even supposed to use more aggressive timings and the BCLK OC is another variable for stability.

Currently I am trying to get 3600-14-16-16 stable. Before I tried 3200-12-14-14-14.

I'm having similar results. I havent been able to find a truly stable setup for 3600 but this worked out very well for 3566 (at least I'm going in the right direction). This is the first time it has passed a pair of simultaneous Handbrake jobs (I know what your dirty minds were thinking, shame, for shame...).
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BCLK - 121.6
CPU X - 32.00
Vcore - 1.43125 (may be able to lower this)
SOC - 1.225 (reported as 1.206 by SVI2)
DRAM - 1.47 (vboot the same)
PLL - 1.82
LLC 5
DDR 3566 (not even sure which strap that is anymore)
Edited by madweazl - 4/10/17 at 3:59pm
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