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interesting?

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on a side note, i noticed higher idle voltage with my 1800x. everything on auto, doing normal tasks like web browsing, my 1800x is averaging 1.4v's on both the cpu vcore and cpu vcore monitor in hwmonitor. that's with amd's ryzen balance profile and 0081 bios. if this is caused by amd's ryzen balance profile then i find it ironic since they recommended not pushing above 1.35v's for longevity when their own profile is making mine average 1.4v's lol.

in the mean time i turned off xfr. i bought a 1800x because i didn't really want to overclock but now loosing that boost performance because of the high voltage :/

i guess on the bright side my fans are a whole a lot quieter now... amazing how much cooler its running with ~1.2(x)v's are used at stock 3.6ghz instead of 1.4-1.5v's for xfr lol.

I had posted a comment about this earlier as well. I have everything set to optimized defaults (auto) and on HWinfo im seeing maximum voltages of 1.5 on the Vcore on my 1800x. It's worrisome. I notice my chasis fans ramp up a bit when the vcore does get a little out of hand, and its a bit distracting, even with some reasonably quiet Noctuas and Phanteks. So in the meantime you've decided to turn off XFR? And thats kept your vcore at more reasonable values?
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I had posted a comment about this earlier as well. I have everything set to optimized defaults (auto) and on HWinfo im seeing maximum voltages of 1.5 on the Vcore on my 1800x. It's worrisome. I notice my chasis fans ramp up a bit when the vcore does get a little out of hand, and its a bit distracting, even with some reasonably quiet Noctuas and Phanteks. So in the meantime you've decided to turn off XFR? And thats kept your vcore at more reasonable values?
yeah. about ~1.2(x)v's. i did update my post with some more added info though. xfr disabled makes the ryzen balance plan act funky... at least from what i can tell after sitting at a blank desktop for five minutes. its pegged at 3.6ghz. regardless if i'm idle at desktop or browsing the web. its like if high performance was enabled lol.
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yeah. about ~1.2(x)v's. i did update my post with some more added info though. xfr disabled makes the ryzen balance plan act funky... at least from what i can tell after sitting at a blank desktop for five minutes. its pegged at 3.6ghz. regardless if i'm idle at desktop or browsing the web. its like if high performance was enabled lol.

Yea it's strange and it seems very temperamental. And also running the high performance power plan profile in windows definitely adds to those aggressive voltages for a certain period of time. But yea my voltages are now reading around 1.2 maxmum as I disabled the performance boosting in bios. Thanks for bringing this to light, totally forgot about the XFR and "performance boosting" feature. I've yet to fiddle with the overclocking, just haven't had time to properly test for stability. I just need a stable PC right now. But i'm thinking about doing a mild OC by bumping the multiplier to 37 or 38 with a similar voltage manually set and keep it at that for a while.
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Yea it's strange and it seems very temperamental. And also running the high performance power plan profile in windows definitely adds to those aggressive voltages for a certain period of time. But yea my voltages are now reading around 1.2 maxmum as I disabled the performance boosting in bios. Thanks for bringing this to light, totally forgot about the XFR and "performance boosting" feature. I've yet to fiddle with the overclocking, just haven't had time to properly test for stability. I just need a stable PC right now. But i'm thinking about doing a mild OC by bumping the multiplier to 37 or 38 with a similar voltage manually set and keep it at that for a while.
yeah i noticed the same with high performance as well but i just went with it after i modified my high performance plan by setting minimum processor state to 5% like balance. but the frequent peaks into the 1.5v's was unsettling since it was super common with even the slightest of load. there didn't seem to be any "grace" to it. i do remember elmor talking about some changes they did to make xfr be more aggressive and last longer so i do wonder if any modifications asus has done with the xfr boosting plays a role as well in this aggressive voltage when on auto with xfr... without a doubt 1.4v's average and frequent 1.5(x)v peaks in hwmonitor really spooked me lol.
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For those using offset mode to adjust the Vcore what is the Vcore displayed in BIOS under Extreme Tweaker. The sensor reading that shows up on the left of the Vcore adjustments.
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For those using offset mode to adjust the Vcore what is the Vcore displayed in BIOS under Extreme Tweaker. The sensor reading that shows up on the left of the Vcore adjustments.

1.351 no matter what I set as the offset
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1.351 no matter what I set as the offset

Is there a setting to ensure that? Because my offset seems to be affecting the voltage in BIOS.

Edit: Did you manually set your voltage before changing the offset?
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Is there a setting to ensure that? Because my offset seems to be affecting the voltage in BIOS.

Edit: Did you manually set your voltage before changing the offset?

I'm pretty sure the offset should affect the voltage, I don't think mine is working correctly

I've never used a static voltage, is that an issue?
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am I the only one that after bios update cannot get stable at 3200 mhz, moreover i cannot go more than 3240? (before i can do 3600 cl14, just look on hwbot the k)
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I'm pretty sure the offset should affect the voltage, I don't think mine is working correctly

I've never used a static voltage, is that an issue?

I think you should just set the offset based on the load voltage you observe when you're actually benchmarking. So if you're seeing 1.1V when running prime95 try +0.2 for the offset to try and get 1.35V. And adjust LLC if it's necessary.

My problem is that when running benchmarks my voltage is 1.044V so I tried an offset of +0.1V and in my BIOS it was showing 1.45V, which is way too high for just accessing BIOS.
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