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Originally Posted by elmor View Post


SOC Voltage? The CPU IMC still plays a part.

Already 1.15V on auto .. not much room left there.redface.gif
post #8412 of 17244
Little story.
After many days of successful cold starts today I was met with it not booting.

Only change was installing Aura.

For once it detected the Gskill RGB Ram so I played around with that till it stopped responding to inputs properly as happens on every occasion.
Next boot didn't work.

Many bios clears and flashbacks later finally got back into windows to uninstall Aura and kill the associated bios com service with extreme prejudice.
Aura does not uninstall that service.
My theory is that when Aura goes nuts and stops behaving or responding to inputs correctly it somehow writes junk into some part of the bios ecosystem causing it to fail.

I'm sure most people here are of the opinion that anything written by Asus for Windows should generally be avoided at this time. AIsuite, Aura, etc.

So just a heads up with my sample size of n=1 I conclude Asus software junks your bios. Bit of a gross generalisation I know, lol.

Might help some people having really bizarre random behaviour after a long period of reliable starts.
post #8413 of 17244
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Originally Posted by dorbot View Post

Little story.
After many days of successful cold starts today I was met with it not booting.

Only change was installing Aura.

For once it detected the Gskill RGB Ram so I played around with that till it stopped responding to inputs properly as happens on every occasion.
Next boot didn't work.

Many bios clears and flashbacks later finally got back into windows to uninstall Aura and kill the associated bios com service with extreme prejudice.
Aura does not uninstall that service.
My theory is that when Aura goes nuts and stops behaving or responding to inputs correctly it somehow writes junk into some part of the bios ecosystem causing it to fail.

I'm sure most people here are of the opinion that anything written by Asus for Windows should generally be avoided at this time. AIsuite, Aura, etc.

So just a heads up with my sample size of n=1 I conclude Asus software junks your bios. Bit of a gross generalisation I know, lol.

Might help some people having really bizarre random behaviour after a long period of reliable starts.
rgb lights still on?
post #8414 of 17244
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Originally Posted by Timur Born View Post

The "it's the same BIOS just different name" is true for us beta BIOS testers only. If you change policy to not publish betas anymore then we all have to wait longer in between official releases. I think that's why he wrote that you need to push these faster. wink.gif

But yes, given the complexities of these things you are not slow. I do hope, though, that you keep publishing beta BIOS versions way before official release.

Exactly. I understand that release versions take time, but if you can't post betas here anymore, you should be able to post them on the official page, without one or two weeks delay. If you would get the AMD update mid May, it could be June before any of us gets their hands on it.
post #8415 of 17244
@elmor

Thanks for all the info and update's 3 quick Questions

1-What to base Max's on Voltages on ?

-What I set ( Bios Read higher)
-What Bios Reads after boot
-What I read on probe points
-What Monitoring software reading (only reason why I mention this is coz of load and idle measurement)

2-Are the any setting to control SOC fluctuation. Mine varies from 1.06-1.112

3- I know you stated Max recommended Voltages but is there a combined SOC and Vcore max ?

I ask this Because the Amount of SOC "SEEMS" cause adverse effects with combo's on Vcore- Even thou both are WELL withing Safe parameters
Higher Vcore i must lower SOC.

I Removed my "findings" until i can prove them further.
post #8416 of 17244
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Originally Posted by Ubardog View Post

@elmor

Thanks for all the info and update's 3 quick Questions

1-What to base Max's on Voltages on ?

-What I set ( Bios Read higher)
-What Bios Reads after boot
-What I read on probe points
-What Monitoring software reading (only reason why I mention this is coz of load and idle measurement)

2-Are the any setting to control SOC fluctuation. Mine varies from 1.06-1.112

3- I know you stated Max recommended Voltages but is there a combined SOC and Vcore max ?

I ask this Because the Amount of SOC "SEEMS" cause adverse effects with combo's on Vcore- Even thou both are WELL withing Safe parameters
Higher Vcore i must lower SOC.

I Removed my "findings" until i can prove them further.

Not at the computer to test it but SOC as measure via SVI2 for me fluctuates from 1.200-1.206. I'm guessing LLC influences this as well as vcore but I cant test it at the moment (I'm running LLC 5).
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post #8417 of 17244
Still having cold boot issues with 2933MHz CL14-12-12-36, going to try 2666MHz CL12-12-12-36 now, maybe that helps. Even with VRAM boot voltage on 1,35V. Guess that's just the general problem elmor talked about that AMD didn't fix yet.
post #8418 of 17244
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Originally Posted by Masterchief79 View Post

I like my CPU temperatures with the 1700 + Mora 2 Pro smile.gif
Also, I got 2933MHz CL14-12-12-36 1T stable at 1,35V (B-Dies).


You need to Disable Sense MI skew off For a 1700

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Oh and possibly try lowering your SOC to boot higher Freq. I know it seems backwards but works for me.
Edited by Ubardog - 4/11/17 at 5:16am
post #8419 of 17244
After playing around some more I'm going to stick with mild BCLK oc for now with

3.9 GHz (104.8 * 37.25) @ +0.03125V core, 1.06125V SoC, 1.35V RAM @ ~3353 MHz.

A notch higher on BCLK (106.2 for ~3400 MHz) I get all kinds of stability issues even with voltages higher than what I'd be comfortable with. Can't seem to identify the limiting factor(s) here.

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post #8420 of 17244
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Originally Posted by SpecChum View Post

nah mate.

I've still had no rgb lighting since I updated to 1002.

Have you tried pulling battery for 30 seconds? That's the only thing I haven't tried yet.

I have not tried the battery. To be honest, I didn't know about a battery
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