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the updated ryzen master is up on the site - https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/ryzen-master

yeah still not reading right at all, there is no way my temp is that low
That is because Ryzen Mastery just applies a dumb -20C to Tctl and Sense Skew practically applies another -20C when temps a low.

I hoped RM would follow the dynamic offset (0/+10/+20) properly, but unfortunately it does not. Hopefully Martin can come up with some intelligent algorithm for HWinfo.
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Well.. i just had to disable some programs from startup... but still i dont thing this is functional just yet!

nope, didnt survive... finished a cinebench but didnt have time to SS before bsod.
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That is because Ryzen Mastery just applies a dumb -20C to Tctl and Sense Skew practically applies another -20C when temps a low.

I hoped RM would follow the dynamic offset (0/+10/+20) properly, but unfortunately it does not. Hopefully Martin can come up with some intelligent algorithm for HWinfo.

How freaking hard is it for freaking AMD/ASUS to say "this is a 1700, 1700x or 1800x, lets go ahead and do the math correctly to show the right temp." Sweet jesus how can we be this far into this and not know a correct freaking temp.
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The problem is that the offset is not fixed, but changes dynamically, seemingly based on the CPU instruction set that us currently used by software. There are three offsets: +0C (base), +10C and +20C.

To make things more complicated, once Tctl hits 95C any offset is gradually decreased to match 95C. This continues until the offset hits +0C and the real CPU temp hits 95C. At this point hard throttling to x0.5 (0.5 GHz) happens and Tctl is allowed to increase over 95C. At 115C Tctl a thermal shutdown happens.
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I can't hit 3200 on my F4-3200C14D sticks! The highest it'll go is 2933 with over 1.0V for the SOC voltage. Using 0083 BIOS, can the Ryzen 7 1700 really not hit 3200?
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I can't hit 3200 on my F4-3200C14D sticks! The highest it'll go is 2933 with over 1.0V for the SOC voltage. Using 0083 BIOS, can the Ryzen 7 1700 really not hit 3200?

It would appear that some cannot, no. But it's all the chips, not just 1700.

Trying increasing the DDR boot voltage to 1.45v
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It seems so random right now. Some ram that wouldn't go past 2666 before now are hitting 3200 with the latest test bios. Sucks considering how important ram speed is for this platform.mad.gif
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vSOC for fabric, vDDP for I/O. I need 1.2V vDDP for 3600 12-12-12-22 1T and 1.1 vSOC. It's unstable with lower vDDP.
When memory is pushed high, vSOC needs to be increased, because fabric is in sync with dram frequency.

3600+ is not ready for prime-time yet, only for benching. But hope things will change with May update.

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Have you found a source for this information by chance?

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vSOC for fabric, vDDP for I/O. I need 1.2V vDDP for 3600 12-12-12-22 1T and 1.1 vSOC. It's unstable with lower vDDP.
When memory is pushed high, vSOC needs to be increased, because fabric is in sync with dram frequency.

3600+ is not ready for prime-time yet, only for benching. But hope things will change with May update.

Have you found a source for this information by chance?

Likely from his own testing.
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It seems so random right now. Some ram that wouldn't go past 2666 before now are hitting 3200 with the latest test bios. Sucks considering how important ram speed is for this platform.mad.gif

This is why the May update from AMD is supposed to focus on RAM performance.
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