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HCI memtest passed, only did to 110% tho, I want to use the PC now biggrin.gif

I'd be OK doing constant 1.4v (load) on SVI2 TFN, but would be a bit cautious of more.

EDIT: SOC is currently on auto, I've not changed it. Showing 1.14v

I reckon you will be able to lower SOC.




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Passed IBT high on 1.319v, again 3.9Ghz.

Old chip needed about 1.37v for that.

I can do very high only with +162mV, I may try maximum again, perhaps SOC was issue for it at the time. You see initially I went with 0.950V in UEFI and it passed lot's of stability testing, then on low loads/idle every so often I'd have code 8, bump to 0.962V sorted it, could also be at low loads all voltages are a little lower than when CPU loaded. This issue was less on 0902 but it tripped quicker on 0079, I reckon as RAM is running more "efficiently".
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I reckon you will be able to lower SOC.

I did, down to 1.0v now
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Something is very wrong with offset vcore settings on my board. Changing the offset doesn't seem to do anything. With a pstate vid of 20 for 1.35 base and offset of +0.05v I get instability somehow. On the other hand if I set my vcore to 1.40 manual then I have no issues at all.

What is going on...

Can we change p-state VID on the current beta?
post #8534 of 17359
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Yeah was reading this today, there was some discussion earlier in this thread that some thought as "X" CPU is better bin perhaps IMC better, which from that post seems is not the case.

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So basically RAM is one big crap shoot... Great.

On another note, anyone else notice really high voltage in BIOS? I get 1.35V when just looking through BIOS, and if I set an offset it goes even higher. I tried resetting to optimal default settings, but should I try clearing the CMOS battery?

Yeah, but TBH "official RAM support" stated by AMD isn't as high as we expect. To be honest even Intel isn't as well, but we're mentally comparing polished platform vs immature. I reckon the crap shoot will swing in the other direction as maturity progresses.

Overall regardless of OC headroom pretty happy with Ryzen. Better "bang for $" vs comparative Intel CPU, something new to have tried. As a previous i5 4690K owner SKL / KBL really didn't float my boat to even read reviews / threads of them, let alone buy them.
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I have the G.Skill Trident Z RGB 2x8GB 3200MHz CL14 kit with part number F4-3200C14D-16GTZR. These are running on my ASUS C6H board with a Ryzen 1700. Memory modules have the serial number where digit five starts A500 so supposedly they are Samsung B-Die.

Thought I would post my experience so far with the memory as I've seen a lot of people with the same memory either say (1) this memory should work with no tweaks or (2) it is not working for them.

So far I have been unable to get 3200MHz stable with any timings, voltages, 1T/2T, and every beta UEFI released to date (including 1001, 1002, 0079, 0081, 0082, 0083).

I have reset UEFI to defaults, no other overclocking, and tried to set memory both via DOCP and manual. Also tried setting DRAM voltage & boot voltage to 1.45v, SoC to 1.2v, loosened memory timings to 18-18-18-38, tried ProcODT up to 80, etc. I have tried one change at a time and then multiple changes together. Nothing works for 3200MHz -- the system just attempts training, fails with code 0d, reboots, and resets to 2133MHz.

Running the kit at 2933MHz with its rated timings of 14-14-14-34 and 1.35v works great -- no issues at all.

I have gone through every single page of this thread, up to this point, and have tried so many suggestions that those before me have posted. I emailed G.Skill support explaining what I have tried so far and their response was "try one module at a time and try more SoC voltage" however that has not helped. I am waiting for another response back from them although they are replying rather slow.

At this point I have a few days left to either keep the memory or return it and try something else. I did order another kit of the exact same memory and will try that -- thinking perhaps the first set I ordered has some defect.

An update on my issue with G.Skill Trident Z RGB part number F4-3200C14D-16GTZR --

Bought another set of the same memory and have the same issue -- cannot boot and train the memory at 3200MHz. Running at 2933MHz works great. Tried all the same tweaks and made no difference.

Going to buy another Ryzen 1700 and see if that makes any difference.
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Thanks for share and look forward to what happens. One guy in the AM4 mobo thread went through four sets of RAM and did not gain 3200MHz, IIRC G.Skill sets.
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I'm about to make my first attempt at using a P-state to overclock, and would appreciate some help before I take the plunge. Here are my current overclock settings:

4 GHz
CPU Multiplier: 40
CPU Core Voltage: Manual 1.42
CPU SOC Voltage: Manual 1.0
CPU LLC: Level 3
VODSOC LLC: Level 3
CPU Thermal Control: 120

DRAM Voltage: 1.36
DRAM VBoot Voltage: 1.36
DRAM Current Control: 100%
DRAM Frequency: 3200MHz
DRAM Timing: Manual 14-14-14-14-34

I want to reach the same outcome with a P-state. Here are my questions:

1. If I am understanding correctly, I would want to go to the custom p-states and set the 0 P-state FID. Which for 4 GHz would be a value of 160, or a Hex value of A0.

2. And am I correct that there is an issue with setting voltage with a vid value, and I should instead use an offset value on the main Tweaker page?

3. What value should I be using to calculate the offset voltage from? For example, since I want the CPU voltage at 1.42, would I use 1.16 as a base value, and therefore set the offset to a +.26?

4. Are there any other settings that need to be changed?

5. Is it recommended to set up additional P-states?

5. I am currently using the "Ryzen balanced power plan". Should any of those values be changed, or another plan used?
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I'm about to make my first attempt at using a P-state to overclock, and would appreciate some help before I take the plunge. Here are my current overclock settings:

4 GHz
CPU Multiplier: 40
CPU Core Voltage: Manual 1.42
CPU SOC Voltage: Manual 1.0
CPU LLC: Level 3
VODSOC LLC: Level 3
CPU Thermal Control: 120

DRAM Voltage: 1.36
DRAM VBoot Voltage: 1.36
DRAM Current Control: 100%
DRAM Frequency: 3200MHz
DRAM Timing: Manual 14-14-14-14-34

I want to reach the same outcome with a P-state. Here are my questions:

1. If I am understanding correctly, I would want to go to the custom p-states and set the 0 P-state FID. Which for 4 GHz would be a value of 160, or a Hex value of A0.

2. And am I correct that there is an issue with setting voltage with a vid value, and I should instead use an offset value on the main Tweaker page?

3. What value should I be using to calculate the offset voltage from? For example, since I want the CPU voltage at 1.42, would I use 1.16 as a base value, and therefore set the offset to a +.26?

4. Are there any other settings that need to be changed?

5. Is it recommended to set up additional P-states?

5. I am currently using the "Ryzen balanced power plan". Should any of those values be changed, or another plan used?

use offset, not manual voltage for cpu.

you dont need to set anything other than pstate 0.

I heard ryzen balanced power plan has a minimum cpu state of 90% which defeats the purpose of pstates, as it wont drop down to pstate 1 or 2 that way. change that to 5% first chance you get.
Edited by Reikoji - 4/11/17 at 4:03pm
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I'm about to make my first attempt at using a P-state to overclock, and would appreciate some help before I take the plunge. Here are my current overclock settings:

4 GHz
CPU Multiplier: 40
CPU Core Voltage: Manual 1.42
CPU SOC Voltage: Manual 1.0
CPU LLC: Level 3
VODSOC LLC: Level 3
CPU Thermal Control: 120

DRAM Voltage: 1.36
DRAM VBoot Voltage: 1.36
DRAM Current Control: 100%
DRAM Frequency: 3200MHz
DRAM Timing: Manual 14-14-14-14-34

I want to reach the same outcome with a P-state. Here are my questions:

1. If I am understanding correctly, I would want to go to the custom p-states and set the 0 P-state FID. Which for 4 GHz would be a value of 160, or a Hex value of A0.

2. And am I correct that there is an issue with setting voltage with a vid value, and I should instead use an offset value on the main Tweaker page?

3. What value should I be using to calculate the offset voltage from? For example, since I want the CPU voltage at 1.42, would I use 1.16 as a base value, and therefore set the offset to a +.26?

4. Are there any other settings that need to be changed?

5. Is it recommended to set up additional P-states?

5. I am currently using the "Ryzen balanced power plan". Should any of those values be changed, or another plan used?

The offset required for me was actually lower than doing the math for some reason (e.g. calculating it I figured I'd need an offset of .02 but it actually worked out to .018). Other than that, it works the same as your multiplier clock.
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hi,
is there btw some way to get rid of that +20 degree offset on the 1800x, thats quite annoying if i need to compile something and the fan start blowing without an reason for some hours -.-
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