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Originally Posted by Reikoji View Post

use offset, not manual voltage for cpu.

you dont need to set anything other than pstate 0.

I heard ryzen balanced power plan has a minimum cpu state of 90% which defeats the purpose of pstates, as it wont drop down to pstate 1 or 2 that way. change that to 5% first chance you get.

It does technically set the minimum windows cpu state to 90%. However, AMD has said that it actually shuts down the cores and monitors are reporting speeds in error. If you check the overall power levels though, it is within 2 watts of setting the minimum state to 5%.

In other words, AMD has set the minimum to 90% on purpose and you do not need to set it to 5%.
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It does technically set the minimum windows cpu state to 90%. However, AMD has said that it actually shuts down the cores and monitors are reporting speeds in error. If you check the overall power levels though, it is within 2 watts of setting the minimum state to 5%.

In other words, AMD has set the minimum to 90% on purpose and you do not need to set it to 5%.

interesting. monitors, never being honest.

but.... where is their proof?! besides a 2w difference
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An update on my issue with G.Skill Trident Z RGB part number F4-3200C14D-16GTZR --

Bought another set of the same memory and have the same issue -- cannot boot and train the memory at 3200MHz. Running at 2933MHz works great. Tried all the same tweaks and made no difference.

Going to buy another Ryzen 1700 and see if that makes any difference.

Getting a new 1700 worked for me smile.gif
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@ finalheaven, Reikoji, and madweazl


Thanks Guys:

Hmm, when I go to power plan settings in Windows 10, Anniversary, I see under Processor Power Management only options for Maximum Processor Frequency and System Cooling policy, NO option for minimums....
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@ finalheaven, Reikoji, and madweazl


Thanks Guys:

Hmm, when I go to power plan settings in Windows 10, Anniversary, I see under Processor Power Management only options for Maximum Processor Frequency and System Cooling policy, NO option for minimums....

Thats actually how power plans were acting for me... at first. Then I went into regedit and enabled all the power plan options microsoft/windows determined I was too stupid to comprehend (which is probably true).

If you wish do the same, run regedit and go into HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\54533251-82be-4824-96c1-47b60b740d00. expand that and in the sub keys change the hexidecimal value data of the Attributes REG_DWORD to 0. Then you have all the power (options)
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Thats actually how power plans were acting for me... at first. Then I went into regedit and enabled all the power plan options microsoft/windows determined I was too stupid to comprehend (which is probably true).

If you wish do the same, run regedit and go into HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\54533251-82be-4824-96c1-47b60b740d00. expand that and in the sub keys change the hex of the attributes REG_DWORD to 0. Then you have all the power (options)

I think it has to do with the OC, if not using pstates they disappear, if you are they appear. Im gonna try it now to see if it even downclocks for me under balanced but i doubt it. It makes no difference having the option available if it doesnt downclock lol.
    
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I think it has to do with the OC, if not using pstates they disappear, if you are they appear. Im gonna try it now to see if it even downclocks for me under balanced but i doubt it. It makes no difference having the option available if it doesnt downclock lol.

When i started OC with pstates only maximum cpu state appeared, everything else relevant still stayed hidden.
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Well after 2 weeks of trying everything I can get 100% stable at 3.9ghz on my 1700, and get memory on my gskill to about 3430 mhz (strangely enough 3200 can't work). But I need 1.425v on the cpu LL3 (even though hwinfo only shows it at 1.35-1.417 and Asus software shows 1.395v no matter what, lol). But I bought a high end Gskill 3600 c16 kit for the future and don't think I should need to be pumping 1.4v into a kit rated at 3600 at 1.35v, nor do I think the 1700 should need so much volts, I am worried that in May when 3600mhz is possible on ram, that my infinity fabric on 1700 won't do it. With all this discussion I am just going to return the 1700 and get an 1800x, because I would kick myself in May if I cheaped out of $179 and hit a roadblock. I also figure the 1800x will run at an even 4.0Ghz which would be nice, and even if not it will do the same 3.9ghz I have but at MUCH lower voltage.
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I think it has to do with the OC, if not using pstates they disappear, if you are they appear. Im gonna try it now to see if it even downclocks for me under balanced but i doubt it. It makes no difference having the option available if it doesnt downclock lol.

Downclocked for me without issue (3900 down to 1600 I believe); cant remember which version of 10 I was using two days ago though LOL.
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It does technically set the minimum windows cpu state to 90%. However, AMD has said that it actually shuts down the cores and monitors are reporting speeds in error. If you check the overall power levels though, it is within 2 watts of setting the minimum state to 5%.

In other words, AMD has set the minimum to 90% on purpose and you do not need to set it to 5%.
can you go into more detail about monitoring reporting speed errors? does this imply reported clock frequency isn't reported correctly at idle or low usage? how about the vcore SVI2 sensor that's on the cpu? i ask because with ryzen balance profile it never reported the same value as the motherboards vcore when at idle. only when under load did they appear to ""match"" up.

also for those using ryzen balance profile with xfr enabled and not doing any overclocking.... how is your average vcore? mine is averaging pretty high vcore just doing basic, low usage stuff like web browsing. 1.42+ volts.
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