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Also, I had no core parking options until i went there, and that was a major important one to change for balanced plan. dont think ryzen handles core parking of any level well at all. tried various levels of core parking and each one borked single core performance at some level, save no cores parked ever.

I found out why there is no min/max option in the regedit, both sub keys are missing the dword values, i tried adding em but made no difference. Changing all the dword just adds a ridiculous amount of options to the power profile though, id like to just have min and max.
    
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Update to my update. Now on 081 and it booted with 1.4v DDR and 1.4v DDRvboot!?!??!?!?

So I can get my ram stable on 081, just requires 1.4v instead of 1.35? Or maybe it is the DDRvboot that matters. Going to play overwatch now...so testing is done. smile.gif
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can you go into more detail about monitoring reporting speed errors? does this imply reported clock frequency isn't reported correctly at idle or low usage? how about the vcore SVI2 sensor that's on the cpu? i ask because with ryzen balance profile it never reported the same value as the motherboards vcore when at idle. only when under load did they appear to ""match"" up.

also for those using ryzen balance profile with xfr enabled and not doing any overclocking.... how is your average vcore? mine is averaging pretty high vcore just doing basic, low usage stuff like web browsing. 1.42+ volts.

All I know is what AMD has stated and the fact that the CPU total power package is within 2 watts or so of using balanced.
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Now that you know a little more about the performance of our new plan, let’s talk power. The AMD Ryzen Balanced power plan does not change how our processor handles low-power idle states called “CC-States.” These CC-States number cc1 through cc6, representing increasingly aggressive clock and power gating. In fact, cc6 represents a core that is essentially turned off. The core is sleeping so deeply that only its voltage can be detected by software.

The sophisticated power management technology in the “Zen” core can autonomously enter and exit these CC-States as quickly as 1ms. Software tools, unable to see through the sleep, will simply report the last P-state known to the OS before the core entered a CC-state. Don’t be alarmed! The effective frequency of a sleeping core is much lower (generally sub-1GHz).

Source: https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/04/06/amd-ryzen-community-update-3
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Which bios? And I assume you mean 1.375v for dram. What are your other volts/settings to get 3600 mhz/ BCLK? VSoc, ect?
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Any bios 79+ worked for me also 2933mhz or the 3200mhz starting frequency. Vsoc for me wouldn't boot under 1.15v @ 3600mhm also 2933mhz for me requires lower voltage and timings. Not in bios so bclk you will know when the memory frequency says 3600. I keep the cpu at 3.8ghz at all times 1.38v while overclocking till I'm stable then bump it to 3.9ghz when I'm sure. Boot up dram voltage 1.4v
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@Reikoji

So i tried adding binary values to both min/max registry keys (found out which 2 folders they were) and it still did not show up for me under advanced settings, i did however change the core parking percentage so that it can now be edited but thats all i was able to get.

I may have a setting thats on automatic in the BIOS, im not using pstates to OC im only using offset and multiplier so that could also be why.
    
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All I know is what AMD has stated and the fact that the CPU total power package is within 2 watts or so of using balanced.
Source: https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/04/06/amd-ryzen-community-update-3

Oh i read that. But all they really said was CC6 cant be measured by normal means. CC1 2 and 3 can be measured. 1 is what we are setting for our pstate overclocks. 2's default for 1800x is 3200 at like 1.2v or so. 3 is 2200 at .9 volt. THOSE can be measured, and are being shown whenever minimum processor state is further below 90%. at 90% there is no indication of downclocking or downvolting whatsoever.

Below 3 is 400mhz at 0(the unmeasurable!)v, which is pretty much when your pc goes to sleep. That of course is never seen in monitoring software, since the pc is dead when its at that level.
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@Reikoji

So i tried adding binary values to both min/max registry keys (found out which 2 folders they were) and it still did not show up for me under advanced settings, i did however change the core parking percentage so that it can now be edited but thats all i was able to get.

I may have a setting thats on automatic in the BIOS, im not using pstates to OC im only using offset and multiplier so that could also be why.

when I was doing standard offset and multiplier OC the only processor power option i had was system cooling policy: active or passive. mad.gif
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when I was doing standard offset and multiplier OC the only processor power option i had was system cooling policy: active or passive. mad.gif

Yea exactly whats mine doing, i changed the keys but to no avail. At least i have my core parking percentage in case i wanna mess with it. I'm not worried about my pc running at 3.8 at idle its not an issue for me, sure its like it to downclock but its no biggie.
    
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@bluej511 Someone correct me if I am wrong but I believe the only way you will get your processor to downclock at idle is if you use a pstate overclock. Otherwise by editing the multiplier you are forcing your cpu to run at your selected speed meaning you will not get those options for downclocking in windows.
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@bluej511 Someone correct me if I am wrong but I believe the only way you will get your processor to downclock at idle is if you use a pstate overclock. Otherwise by editing the multiplier you are forcing your cpu to run at your selected speed meaning you will not get those options for downclocking in windows.

Yea thats what i thought as well, was different on z97 using vcore set to manual and balanced mode would downclock on its own.
    
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