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The good news is, games that can fully load a Ryzen 7 are practically non-existant, so if youre into Ryzen 7 more for gaming than for production then LLC levels probably dont need to leave level 1. but when that crazy game arrives... sometime in the year 2250....

Absolutely; for me this is only an issue while benchmarking.

To me vDroop/drop are only an issue if they interfere with operations or overclocking. From my observations this platform seems to like a bit of variation in voltage just because of the way it's made the variation in voltage helps balance the cores. From my experience if you set a hard voltage of 1.35v to cover the peaks, the CPU is actually overvolting most of the time and will run hotter. If the CPU can run 70 % of the time at 1.31 volts and needs the occasional 1.35v why force it to take that voltage 100% of the time even though it's not necessary? As for benchmarking all you need is V_Core set properly to accomodate the load. As you can see in the pic I had no problem benchmarking with LLC on auto.

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@Reikoji

Did you see my prior response to your post?

no, i only see this post for hrs. weird.
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About that profile. Did you save it in an earlier bios?

Nope. Setup on UEFI 0079 wink.gif . Aware not load up OC profiles from another via saves, etc wink.gif , my 24/7 OC / profiling of CPU is etched into my brain wink.gif .

For example I use flashback to update UEFI, system boot and is blank canvas, so I set onboard devices, fan profiles as I want and save "base profile", this has no OC setup, no manual voltages etc. Then I setup a OC profile, again from known good settings as used on past UEFIs.
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But at LLC1 overshoot in even those cases won't occur correct?

In cases of lower LLC, ringing still occurs but doesn't breach the user-set VID by an appreciable degree. The implications of dialing out the buffer benefits of Voffset (from the VRM perspective) were explained earlier.
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Every time I post in here I just get ignored, has no one else noticed their ram speeds changing after a reboot? Mine go from 3200 to 2133 in windows even though the target is always set at 3200... If I go into the bios and press f10 before booting i can boot with 3200Mhz.
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In cases of lower LLC, ringing still occurs but doesn't breach the user-set VID by an appreciable degree. The implications of dialing out the buffer benefits of Voffset (from the VRM perspective) were explained earlier.

Ah yea, thinking about it I guess that was a silly question. Some amount of overshoot will still happen at any level, according to the rule of electricity.

So in the end it comes down to what one would consider an acceptable overshoot. it would be nice if this overshoot could be measured by software, i dont have a high quality DMM or oscilloscope frown.gif
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Every time I post in here I just get ignored, has no one else noticed their ram speeds changing after a reboot? Mine go from 3200 to 2133 in windows even though the target is always set at 3200... If I go into the bios and press f10 before booting i can boot with 3200Mhz.

It has been explained many times; apparently you've ignored the responses.
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Ah yea, thinking about it I guess that was a silly question. Some amount of overshoot will still happen at any level, according to the rule of electricity.

So in the end it comes down to what one would consider an acceptable overshoot. it would be nice if this overshoot could be measured by software, i dont have a high quality DMM or oscilloscope frown.gif

Unless you absolutely have to, like others have been saying, just don't use LLC at all. Raise Vcore to get to the level you need.
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Every time I post in here I just get ignored, has no one else noticed their ram speeds changing after a reboot? Mine go from 3200 to 2133 in windows even though the target is always set at 3200... If I go into the bios and press f10 before booting i can boot with 3200Mhz.

Do you get any error codes, or quick shutdown-reboot immediately after rebooting?
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Every time I post in here I just get ignored, has no one else noticed their ram speeds changing after a reboot? Mine go from 3200 to 2133 in windows even though the target is always set at 3200... If I go into the bios and press f10 before booting i can boot with 3200Mhz.

This is called safebboot. Happens when RAM or CPU OC is failing.

Probably your RAM s not working with 3200. Try 2933.
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