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I found it started to help at higher ram speeds, also new 0082 BIOS is working very well at least for me it is. Pretty sure if I were on air and not the cold loop 3800 would be easily attainable.


Can you post up some of your settings for that?
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Well I did try a clean reinstall of W10 CU and have the same problems. See post 7606 - even captured a video of it.

Perhaps it is something else...

I see we do both use a Samsung NVME SSD. Perhaps it is a problem with the Samsung NVME Driver? I did not try the default NVME Driver...

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I get this issue and I too have a Samsung NVMe drive.

I only noticed it yesterday after exchanging my old 1700 for a new 1700 though. Weird.

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Perhaps we are onto something. I will try some other NVMe drivers this weekend, perhaps I even try using my 850 EVO as system drive instead...

Any more W10 CU Users here that can deny or confirm this behaviour?
One of the first things I do on every Windows install is load the newest drivers. I've never not loaded the Samsung NVMe driver. I'll be doing a clean install of Creator tonight so I'll give it a try with every updated driver except the Samsung and report back with the results.
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I found it started to help at higher ram speeds, also new 0082 BIOS is working very well at least for me it is. Pretty sure if I were on air and not the cold loop 3800 would be easily attainable.


Can you post up some of your settings for that?
2666 mem divider and raise BCLK
VDIMM 1.5v
SOC 1.1v
PLL 2.0v
vDPP 1.2v
Vtt 0.85v

Still a work in progress and needs refinement
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Hello, I am new to the forums and have found this to be an incredible resource. I've pretty well decided on the CH6 because Asus seems to be supporting it well, and it's a good board.

I am about to pull the trigger on a Ryzen 1700 build, but I am struggling with what RAM kit to use. My primary use is workstation / photo editing and I need at least 32GB, and would like to keep the upgrade path open to 64GB, but that isn't a deal breaker. I have couple of questions:

1) Are there any 32GB RAM kits, regardless of configuration, that will work out of the box at 3000-3200 Mhz with good timings on Ryzen 1700? I don't mind OC'ing, but it would be nice to plug & play.

2) Is there any speed advantage whatsoever to going 2X16 vs 4X8? I am guessing 2X16 is better to fully take advantage of dual channel, but maybe I don't understand that entirely.

More specifically, would this RAM kit run at advertised speeds in the CH6 with a Ryzen 1700? :

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX63832

(never mind the ridiculous price - I'm in Canada)

Thanks in advance!!

Welcome to the chaos, I TRY to keep up with this thread, but it DOES move quickly. Things that many have not really talked about is the better audio on this board, the 10 channel DAC is a nice "extra". Now, there is a big RAM focused update from AMD that is due in May, and that update SHOULD allow for most 3200 rated memory to hit that speed. With that in mind, you will want 14 latency memory, since it DOES work better overall.

Now, going with 4 sticks of 8GB of 1T RAM will result in the best performance at the moment, and will make it easier to hit 3200MHz than 2x16, but as I mentioned, in a month, hitting 3200MHz should be easy enough for the 2x16 configuration. Performance difference would be insignificant I believe.
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If you're up for it, roll back to 1002 and leave everything default with the exception of setting the 3200 strap. Let it F9 and reboot until it loads to windows. What do you end up with?

Running UEFI 1002 and everything at default/auto. Set the memory strap to 3200, save changes and reboot. System powers off then back on, loads into Windows, and memory is running at 2133MHz.
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1. Set voltage is usually very accurate. To confirm use DMM readings when not stressing the system.
2. Should be a readout issue, use DMM to confirm.
3. Adding Vcore & SOC generates more heat = higher temp = lower stability
Not correct, just that we might be limited to 00xx BIOSes, it's just a naming difference compared to beta/release candidate. BIOSes here will be identical what you'll be able to download 1-2 weeks after.
Very nice, congrats!
That's essentially what the current BIOSes are, just a few extra bugfixes. The DRAM changes are due to the new AGESA.
An early version of the May update looks very good. Most DRAM sticks are now able to reach 3200. But please be patient, every time someone asks for an ETA I will delay the release by one day biggrin.gif

Great news, elmor, having the ability to access test bios is a benefit to all the enthusiasts working with this platform, and just adds fun and satisfaction to the user experience. Now I really am looking forward to trying out that May update version. I'm hoping it will see us getting better performance/compatibility four sticks of DRAM, and divisors that will allow those who are at 3200 MHz now to reach higher. Maybe I was too much the optimist, but I "bet on the come" by buying 3600 MHz DRAM.
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Great news, elmor, having the ability to access test bios is a benefit to all the enthusiasts working with this platform, and just adds fun and satisfaction to the user experience. Now I really am looking forward to trying out that May update version. I'm hoping it will see us getting better performance/compatibility four sticks of DRAM, and divisors that will allow those who are at 3200 MHz now to reach higher. Maybe I was too much the optimist, but I "bet on the come" by buying 3600 MHz DRAM.

Well... i managed to boot 4 sticks with 3200 strap and 109.4 bclk for 3500mhz ram into windows... but thats not at all stable. Didn't have chance to do much before BSOD, and ended up having to reininstall some stuff after corruption from prior attempts with BSOD's frown.gif. I'll just stick with what i got until the next Ram compatibility update from AMD.
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Running UEFI 1002 and everything at default/auto. Set the memory strap to 3200, save changes and reboot. System powers off then back on, loads into Windows, and memory is running at 2133MHz.

That is the standard way the motherboard responds to slight instability. If the BIOS can not train at the speed you try to run it at, it goes back to 2133, which will then let you try again. Locking up and needing to clear your BIOS settings is a bit more annoying. I will note that most of us are on 0079-0083 at this point, because they are clearly better.
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I dont think there is an IMC limitation that we've uncovered; whatever ram clock I've been able to use stable (roughly 3566mhz thus far), I've been able to do at any CPU clock.

I believe the IMC limitation comes into play when you're not using BCLK/REFCLK to achieve higher memory speeds.
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Now, going with 4 sticks of 8GB of 1T RAM will result in the best performance at the moment, and will make it easier to hit 3200MHz than 2x16, but as I mentioned, in a month, hitting 3200MHz should be easy enough for the 2x16 configuration. Performance difference would be insignificant I believe.

Don't make promises that you can't guarantee. We have no idea how much improvement the new AMD code will have especially with double sided ram. AMD has never promised more than what it specified which is pretty low. But we are all hoping for the best.
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