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Hey OnSync,

Download HwInfo64 and once downloaded, launch it and open the sensors tab. Scroll down and search for the Asus Crosshair VI Hero tab, directly under that, the first CPU category should be used to determine the most "accurate" temperatures at the moment in my opinion, because they have most closely reflected temperatures measured with infrared during my tests. The difference between the measuring tool and that sensor reading was the least in comparison overall during my tests. Regardless Elmor would be the best person to ask, as he would have a definitive response.
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I'm one of those that had 2x16 GB running at 3200 MHz, with 18-16-16-36-2T timings (I think), but I got several memory errors while running MemTest (the version running under Windows) so I wouldn't say it works.

I'm currently running 2660 at 14-14-14-34-2T without any memory errors so it wasn't my RAM that was the issue at 3200 MHz. I'm hoping the May AGESA will let me run at 3200 MHz 14-14-14-34-2T without errors.

For now, I don't think any type of RAM can guarantee 3200 MHz as it's too dependant on your CPU. We'll know more after May update though..

Thanks for chiming in - could you share exactly what RAM kit you have? Also are you expecting to be able to run this kit at 3200 14 latency on future updates? I am having trouble picking a specific RAM kit. I am pretty set on 2X16GB now though from what you guys have told me about them memory controller.

I have found this AMD-specific kit available, but it seems overpriced and slow (not sure if it can be OC'd):

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX65927
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I can boot into Windows with DOCP Standard, but it seems to be slightly laggy. I mean like, when you have to enter the password/PIN it lags for a while.

thats possibly just with startup. does it still feel laggy after things have been given time to load?
post #8814 of 16718
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Thanks for the reply!

Yeah this thread moves super fast, not long ago it was around 200 pages. Great info and participation though - nice to see Asus employees actively engaging the community.

So should I buy 3200 Mhz 14 latency RAM, or something lesser and OC it? If I can safely save some money with no disadvantage, I wouldn't mind doing so.

I was under the impression the April 11th update provided the RAM speed compatibility upgrade, based on the AMA AMD did on TomsHardware:

"Ram is improving all the time. We have a huge BIOS update enabling 3200 MHz DDR4 that should hit most boards April 11th, and another one scheduled for May." So maybe the April update didn't do much for RAM?

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http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3378010/join-tom-hardware-amd-thursday-april-6th/page-3.html?_ga=1.135307185.1475899300.1480958174

If you think I can safely get 2X16GB, can you point me to an exact kit? The sheer number of RAM kits are what I am finding most daunting. I have gathered that I want Samsung B die RAM, but that's about it.

Thanks again for taking the time.

First off, the 14 CAS latency RAM will always be better than the 15 or 16 latency memory. You will ALWAYS be better off than 16 latency memory. The SPEEDS....Ryzen being picky about memory means that overclocking(which applies to anything over 2133) isn't really going to work. I have not heard of anyone with 2400 memory running at 3200.

The BIOS updates we have gotten make things better, but the BIG RAM update from AMD has yet to come out...the 0079-0083 set of BIOS updates from Asus are just the tip of the iceberg.
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thats possibly just with startup. does it still feel laggy after things have been given time to load?
Well, didnt seems so, just Creators Update being screwed up. Cant even pin my shortcuts... fkn Microsoft.
But it didnt have that lag before the DOCP change. So Imma go through bios and see if I find something interesting.

BTW, should I use T. Probe or Extreme on DRAM and CPU?
post #8816 of 16718
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Well, didnt seems so, just Creators Update being screwed up. Cant even pin my shortcuts... fkn Microsoft.
But it didnt have that lag before the DOCP change. So Imma go through bios and see if I find something interesting.

BTW, should I use T. Probe or Extreme on DRAM and CPU?

ohhhhh creaters update.... yeaa... a lot of people are having problems with that. Causing a lot of stutter and momentary freezes especially noticeable when attempting to do stress tests.
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ohhhhh creaters update.... yeaa... a lot of people are having problems with that. Causing a lot of stutter and momentary freezes especially noticeable when attempting to do stress tests.
You know, I would lie if I said that I wasn't surprised. I dont get MS, why the hell they keep making Windows a Mobile Desktop. And Creators does seems slightly clunky.
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ohhhhh creaters update.... yeaa... a lot of people are having problems with that. Causing a lot of stutter and momentary freezes especially noticeable when attempting to do stress tests.

For me those are mostly related to certain GPU involvements such as Outlook (until hardware acceleration was disabled) and LuxMark in RB (usually driver related BSOD after a while).
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Having trouble getting my system with the new ram I bought. I have installed G.Skill F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW, I bought this ram because it is listed on the QVL on Asus website.

I tried all memory frequencies and even loaded BIOS defaults, but my system will not boot. I get to the windows startup screen when defaults are loaded, but my system will freeze right away. I have tried different voltages and relaxed timings, but nothing helps. I'm currently on BIOS 1002, and a bit hesitant to try a beta bios.

Funny thing is, my system boots no problem with my Corsair Dominator ram, which is not on the QVL. Do anyone have any suggestions?
post #8820 of 16718
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Thanks for chiming in - could you share exactly what RAM kit you have? Also are you expecting to be able to run this kit at 3200 14 latency on future updates? I am having trouble picking a specific RAM kit. I am pretty set on 2X16GB now though from what you guys have told me about them memory controller.

I have found this AMD-specific kit available, but it seems overpriced and slow (not sure if it can be OC'd):

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX65927

G.Skill F4-3200C14D-32GVR
https://www.gskill.com/en/product/f4-3200c14d-32gvr

I'm definitely expecting to run it at 3200 MHz later and preferably with CL14. I guess if I had to pick between 2993 MHz CL14 and 3200 MHz CL16, I'd go for the 3200 MHz because of the infinity fabric scaling with DDR speed.

If you have the option to wait it'll be your best bet. Ryzen is still brand new and AGESA and BIOS updates will be plenty and relatively often. How it will perform with RAM in 6 months from now is anyone's guess. Perhaps we can run 3600 MHz or so easily, or perhaps 3200 MHz will still be a stretch.
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