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All my latest flash attempts were done in BIOS directly from my SSD. I was surprised that the BIOS flash tool not only could read NTFS, but also completely ignored any user control right management on the folders. Installing from \Users\Timur\Download folder was no problem, except that I would have wished that BIOS could not just gain entrance to a folder that is supposed to only be read by me, administrators and System. wink.gif

Only Windows is looking at these user settings, the NTFS drivers don't. Also with Linux you can look into every folder. Only bitlocker or True/VeraCrypt prevent that.
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You both have some valid points IMOP. The launch UEFI really was not ready for prime time, which I understand was really a result of AMD not giving the motherboard manufacturers adequate time between getting final samples and Launch Day. OC3D was pretty frank about the issue in the video review of the CH6, even though he liked the board a lot.

On the other hand, I had my eyes open when going for Ryzen, and fully expected teething issues would have to be dealt with. One reason I went with an Asus board is that I had more faith that they would be addressing issues competently than some other brands might. This is not like bringing out Kaby Lake and Z-270 boards, which were rather minor refreshes of the existing Skylake / Z-170.

Ryzen architecture and the motherboards are a bold and truly new approach, a big gamble for AMD and it's partners. So although AMD was a tad early on the launch, I understand the pressure it was under to stick to their timeline.

Bottom line is, yes, early adopters are sort of Beta testers, but I knew that, and think both AMD and the partners have been responding rapidly to to make things workable. I got my board just after 1002 was out, though it came with 0902, and I installed 0082. My biggest surprise was that everything including Windows installation went very smoothly. Sure I needed to work on tinkering for performance, but the rig was functional from day 1.

I guess it just depends on personality and expectations. I enjoy diving in and getting my digital digits dirty, experimenting and refining my rig. That means I love this new PC. On the other hand, if you are a consumer who wants plug and play, Ryzen was the wrong choice for you in it's infancy. Maybe a month or two from now that will not be true.

Mobo manufacturers had some time (not as much as they wanted but they had some time), don't let them make you believe otherwise lol.
    
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Download 081 from here, use USB Flashback. Have fun! smile.gif
(and no, had nothin to do with ez flash, was just versions prior to 0902 which had a problem, with every other version, use what you like, but USB flashback is the most safe way)

Cool thanks! I downloaded 1002 from ASUS since that's the most recent one posted. Are they not as good?
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@elmor

post 8718 had initial info.

I conclude the issue of VCORE going nuts is not down to power I removed earlier.

So I basically did CMOSCLR again on 0079, used my saved base profile again, then 3.8GHz / 3200MHz C14 profile again. PC boot fine, repeated shutdown and up, again mains left on as usual. I then did 1 hr x264 > 1hr Y-Cruncher > 1hr RB, all AOK. Shut PC down, again mains on, leave it for ~1hr, fire her up all good. Let her idle, shutdown and then next boot she's borked. 1x boot and shutdown and then 3x boot before posting, all from 1x press of power on.





Again DMM shows ~1.498V on ProbeIt VCORE point.

Now I've gone for a flash of 0081 and setup base profile, then base profile with 3200MHz C14 and finally 3.8GHz with 3200MHz C14.

Like I said I have had borked boots and say hiccups in OC due to unstable settings before. Board never overvolted CPU, I have been keeping an eye out for it as other member had highlighted issue. I've meddled with CPU / RAM / BCLK, etc and no issue on CPU being overvolted, regardless if mobo post freeze at Q-Code xx and the I use say reset or safe boot button.

Only thing that has changed today is I finally plugged in case speaker, it didn't seem to work on initial build of R7/X370 and I just unplugged. Today after double checking it worked I plugged it in.

And when the borked boot with overvolt gonna happen I get a weird chirped beep right at mobo firing up and then the usual single clean beep on post. Plus as highlighted it does a power up > weird chirp beep > power down > power up with 3x loop with no power outage > clean post beep > check UEFI CPU getting ~1.5V.
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What are you guys getting on temps, I got all 8 cores at 3900 MHZ on an EK X360 water kit running 1.33vcore. I'm still at 77.5C (under prime95 max heat)

I was higher, but i got some kryonaut and that brought it down a few deg to 77.5.

The water hoses dont even feel warm either, its almost as if its not taking away as much heat as it should.

I am seeing the about the same.

i am going to rotate the water block 90' and see how it goes. I think the die orientation on the ch6 will do better in a "goofy" block placement.
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I am seeing the about the same.

i am going to rotate the water block 90' and see how it goes. I think the die orientation on the ch6 will do better in a "goofy" block placement.

let me know what you find, I'm not sure how that would work on the block for this but yeah let me know maybe a picture.
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Quick info: G.Skill 4000-CL18 dimms don't seem to run any more stable at 3600-16-16-16 than my former tries using 3200-CL14 dimms. And even though the 4000-CL18 are rated as 1.35 V at 4000 I have to increase DRAM voltage considerably for proper training (right timings) even at 3300-16-16-16. And I just see the first error at that lowish speed using Memtest. VDDP, VSOC, PLL voltages all don't seem to help. Too bad.

By the way, did anyone notice that "Auto" PLL voltage climbs to 1.9 - 2.0 V when the CPU is overclocked to 4.0 - 4.1 GHz?
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let me know what you find, I'm not sure how that would work on the block for this but yeah let me know maybe a picture.

You unscrew the top from the base just like you are changing jet plates, then just rotate the base plate and top 90' in the bracket so the ports are running vertical instead of horizontal.
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I'm up to I got ram to 3800 mhz, at 16/16/16/36. Making a few more adjustments then shooting for the ram spec of 14/14/14/34.

Left processor at just under 3.9 because its getting warm under max stress.
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What are you guys getting on temps, I got all 8 cores at 3900 MHZ on an EK X360 water kit running 1.33vcore. I'm still at 77.5C (under prime95 max heat)

I was higher, but i got some kryonaut and that brought it down a few deg to 77.5.

The water hoses dont even feel warm either, its almost as if its not taking away as much heat as it should.

A 360 is decent for a 1700x 130w chip thats OCed, depends how many fans you got, static pressure, fan speed etc etc. Mine at 1.199vcore under load peaks at like 50°C, maybe your offset isn't reading right, if your tdie is 20°C cooler or so then thats right temp. I have a 360 and 240mm on mine with the 360 being in push/pull fans at 1100rpm.

And the jet plate should be the same as the lga 115x but the insert needs to be j2 i believe. Its in the owners manual, i just used the am3 one and seems to work just fine.
    
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