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Someone has the Creator Update. How do you feel?
my overclocking does not go .. before I could take the 3600 C14. Now just touch something, the system will crash when boot

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tridentZ 3600c16

Try to save your profile then clear cmos and reapply it see if that sorts it out for you. Mine is downloading right now thru auto updates so i guess its already becoming available. Once its installed ill see if i have any issues.
    
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quick question guys regarding graphs and voltages:

is there a way to record my graphs from HWiNFO or is there a program out there that specialises in this?

I am looking to get prepared for next months big bios update by doing lots of tinkering and learning LLC (of which i will only dabble with 1 and 2 - thanks Raja) and I'm also going to get a DMM in the next week or two as I hear even the best programs are not the most accurate. As I understand it, the graphs will show me a recording of the spikes and droops when really fine tuning the voltages to get a nice stable OC.

I know i can monitor the graphs in real time when they system is being stressed but retrospective action and to be able to save them will help greatly, particularly if the system crashes. I want to be able to pinpoint where and why the system will become unstable.

Great work so far to all early adopters and of course Elmor and Raja, this is a fun journey for me, despite some others who feel angered! biggrin.gif

The logging function of HWiNFO will save data points in a spreadsheet. You can import that into Excel or LibreOffice Calc and let it draw a graph of the data points.
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quick question guys regarding graphs and voltages:

is there a way to record my graphs from HWiNFO or is there a program out there that specialises in this?

I am looking to get prepared for next months big bios update by doing lots of tinkering and learning LLC (of which i will only dabble with 1 and 2 - thanks Raja) and I'm also going to get a DMM in the next week or two as I hear even the best programs are not the most accurate. As I understand it, the graphs will show me a recording of the spikes and droops when really fine tuning the voltages to get a nice stable OC.

I know i can monitor the graphs in real time when they system is being stressed but retrospective action and to be able to save them will help greatly, particularly if the system crashes. I want to be able to pinpoint where and why the system will become unstable.

Great work so far to all early adopters and of course Elmor and Raja, this is a fun journey for me, despite some others who feel angered! biggrin.gif

I think Martin or Gup can help you with that, i know theres def a graph you can look at but not sure how to record it. Ive tried recording a log and that worked really well but as a graph im not sure.

OK thanks bluej, if i havent heard anything in the next couple of days from them (or anyone else with something I'm specifically after - if at all possible) then I'll DM them.
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The logging function of HWiNFO will save data points in a spreadsheet. You can import that into Excel or LibreOffice Calc and let it draw a graph of the data points.

That seems nice and simple, I'll use that as a starting point! thanks f1ll.
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Try to save your profile then clear cmos and reapply it see if that sorts it out for you. Mine is downloading right now thru auto updates so i guess its already becoming available. Once its installed ill see if i have any issues.

I tried everything without success. I await your feed smile.gif
post #8915 of 17244
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@elmor

post 8718 had initial info.

I conclude the issue of VCORE going nuts is not down to power I removed earlier.

So I basically did CMOSCLR again on 0079, used my saved base profile again, then 3.8GHz / 3200MHz C14 profile again. PC boot fine, repeated shutdown and up, again mains left on as usual. I then did 1 hr x264 > 1hr Y-Cruncher > 1hr RB, all AOK. Shut PC down, again mains on, leave it for ~1hr, fire her up all good. Let her idle, shutdown and then next boot she's borked. 1x boot and shutdown and then 3x boot before posting, all from 1x press of power on.





Again DMM shows ~1.498V on ProbeIt VCORE point.

Now I've gone for a flash of 0081 and setup base profile, then base profile with 3200MHz C14 and finally 3.8GHz with 3200MHz C14.

Like I said I have had borked boots and say hiccups in OC due to unstable settings before. Board never overvolted CPU, I have been keeping an eye out for it as other member had highlighted issue. I've meddled with CPU / RAM / BCLK, etc and no issue on CPU being overvolted, regardless if mobo post freeze at Q-Code xx and the I use say reset or safe boot button.

Only thing that has changed today is I finally plugged in case speaker, it didn't seem to work on initial build of R7/X370 and I just unplugged. Today after double checking it worked I plugged it in.

And when the borked boot with overvolt gonna happen I get a weird chirped beep right at mobo firing up and then the usual single clean beep on post. Plus as highlighted it does a power up > weird chirp beep > power down > power up with 3x loop with no power outage > clean post beep > check UEFI CPU getting ~1.5V.

Is that a Pstate OC? Because if so, it is still bugged in the 0079+ BIOSes, in the sense that if the OC fails it will reset the Pstate to Auto, which will change the VID on a 1700 from ~1.2V to ~1.35V but the offset will remain. So instead of 1.2V + 0.15V =1.35V you get 1.35V + 0.15V = 1.5V, f.e....
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I've been messing around with auto settings and 1002 is exponentially better in all aspects of auto settings compared to the new BIOS releases. With a manually set CPU multiplier and ram strap, it actually comes up with something usable where 0079-83 just dont come up with anything worth using. Not sure what is different in that regard between them but whatever was done right in 1002 needs to be ported over to the new AGESA updates (I'm sure this is easier said than done).
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@elmor

post 8718 had initial info.

I conclude the issue of VCORE going nuts is not down to power I removed earlier.

So I basically did CMOSCLR again on 0079, used my saved base profile again, then 3.8GHz / 3200MHz C14 profile again. PC boot fine, repeated shutdown and up, again mains left on as usual. I then did 1 hr x264 > 1hr Y-Cruncher > 1hr RB, all AOK. Shut PC down, again mains on, leave it for ~1hr, fire her up all good. Let her idle, shutdown and then next boot she's borked. 1x boot and shutdown and then 3x boot before posting, all from 1x press of power on.





Again DMM shows ~1.498V on ProbeIt VCORE point.

Now I've gone for a flash of 0081 and setup base profile, then base profile with 3200MHz C14 and finally 3.8GHz with 3200MHz C14.

Like I said I have had borked boots and say hiccups in OC due to unstable settings before. Board never overvolted CPU, I have been keeping an eye out for it as other member had highlighted issue. I've meddled with CPU / RAM / BCLK, etc and no issue on CPU being overvolted, regardless if mobo post freeze at Q-Code xx and the I use say reset or safe boot button.

Only thing that has changed today is I finally plugged in case speaker, it didn't seem to work on initial build of R7/X370 and I just unplugged. Today after double checking it worked I plugged it in.

And when the borked boot with overvolt gonna happen I get a weird chirped beep right at mobo firing up and then the usual single clean beep on post. Plus as highlighted it does a power up > weird chirp beep > power down > power up with 3x loop with no power outage > clean post beep > check UEFI CPU getting ~1.5V.

All multiple boots on my part have been fixed with higher SOC. Not sure why but 0072 required a higher SOC to cold boot. Try if it does it again with 1.0v SOC.
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I've been messing around with auto settings and 1002 is exponentially better in all aspects of auto settings compared to the new BIOS releases. With a manually set CPU multiplier and ram strap, it actually comes up with something usable where 0079-83 just dont come up with anything worth using. Not sure what is different in that regard between them but whatever was done right in 1002 needs to be ported over to the new AGESA updates (I'm sure this is easier said than done).

you mean auto settings in like cpu and soc voltage? In my experience, upgrading to 0079 from 1002 made 1.8v pll voltage auto to 1.8 instead of 2v, nothing else changed when auto.

when everything is auto, aka stock, cpu voltage is set higher than what auto gives me when i set up 4ghz OC. Im thinking this is because my stock is now giving me 100.6 bclk, 3736hz base clock, and i dont remember the exact boost but it was over 4100mhz.
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Does the Crosshair VI support AMD Virtualization? I thought it'd be enabled by default but VirtualBox is complaining it's not.
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Does the Crosshair VI support AMD Virtualization? I thought it'd be enabled by default but VirtualBox is complaining it's not.

its disabled by default
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