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Originally Posted by madweazl View Post

I dont believe it is an IMC issue; when you have an IMC issue, you typically cant reach a specific memory clock and timings as you overclock the processor (i.e. you need to drop the memory clock as you increase the cpu clock). I havent seen any evidence of this being the case; if your memory runs at 3200, it will run at 3200 regardless of cpu clock.


Well in my case if i dobt have soc at at least 1.100 under load CPU will crash. I can run hours of memory stress test at 1.050 no problem. I start heavy cpu and memory load cpu crash in minutes. Btw today i noticed that soc voltage affects ddr voltage in a small way. Like 0.00x margins. When i up soc then ddr voltage goes up also.

Love ******* about with this motherboard hahaha.


Someone was asking about app stutter. I changed to llc2 from 3 and now i get stutter where have zero at llc3 even tho liad volts are same. Interesting.
Not sure if i want to stay at llc2 tho 1.46vcore while idling vs 1.425 on llc3. And on ll2 still missing 0.02 volts under load.
But i see how it feels like when gami g if it stutters then llc will be no go.
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Originally Posted by Johan45 View Post

Sometimes windows takes a bit to catch up I have found. You can also edit that P-State2 to get the idle down to 1500 if that's better

When i try edit pstate2 pc wont boot and stuck with white led 56 code. Aparentky known issue without solution atm :/
Could use 1600mhz idle option
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Originally Posted by lordzed83 View Post

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Originally Posted by Johan45 View Post

Sometimes windows takes a bit to catch up I have found. You can also edit that P-State2 to get the idle down to 1500 if that's better

When i try edit pstate2 pc wont boot and stuck with white led 56 code. Aparentky known issue without solution atm :/
Could use 1600mhz idle option

I haven't tried with the newer BIOS versions so can't say if there were any changes but that's what I modified in mine on ver 902.
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post #9064 of 17798
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Originally Posted by elmor View Post

Super I/O Clock Skew, not SenseMi Skew.

Ah, glad you chimed in then! Why is this the case (the ability to increase above 1.2 if this is enabled)?
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Originally Posted by Benus74 View Post

Thanks, so then it means I can add 3 extra sensors to my build smile.gif
I'm thinking of adding the following:
- cpu intake fan to know the ambient
- on the Noctua cooler, the closest to the CPU to get a rough idea of the CPU temp
- in front of GPU fan to see at what temperature the air is getting into the GPU

Do you think this is strategical good place for the extra fan?

btw - I haven't built a PC since 1999, and I haven't done any overclocking in my life, so please, forgive my innocent questions wink.gif

I think anything beyond the ambient sensor lacks any real value.
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What do you guys think of my build - anything you'd change?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/FCcgHN

Notes:
- I have a Titan X already, just going to move it to the new system
- I have 4 storage HDDs already, going to move into the new system as well

For $73 CAD would you get a 1700X over a 1700 for better OC? Or still not worth it?

My personal opinion is that none of the X sku's are worth the money if you intend to overclock. In the end, the realistic outcome is about 100mhz. If the chance of squeezing another 100mhz is worth the money, go for it.
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post #9065 of 17798
I have been banging my head against the wall trying to get my 2x16GB DIMMs at 3200 with the 0081 BIOS (I really want to run 1T), and I finally figured out what I needed to do.

The main thing was that I had to change the procODT value from AUTO to 80 ohms! I also had to manually change the timings, in my case I changed to 18:18:18:18:41. For some reason auto didn't work. Also, I changed the fail count from 1 to 5, just in case it fails the first time.

With that, the system booted right up! I have Trident Z, F4-3400C16D-32GTZ DIMMs, running at 3200 DDR!!! I'm pretty stoked.

Glad to see that VDDP helped you lordzed83.

On to bumping it higher ...
post #9066 of 17798
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Originally Posted by ManyThreads View Post

What actually worries me the most now is reports of people getting bad memory controllers in Ryzen 1700's, not being able to even handle 3200Mhz.

That has been my exact problem. I have the G.Skill Trident Z RGB CL14 16GB kit.

No CPU overclocking here.

First 1700 runs memory at max 2933MHz 14-14-14-34.
Second 1700 runs memory at 3200MHz 14-14-14-34.

Have tweaked so many settings trying to get them working -- so hopefully people do not respond with "it works for me" or "just try more boot dram voltage"
post #9067 of 17798
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Originally Posted by pantsoftime View Post

Just want to comment on a couple of posts I saw while catching up this morning. I understand the sentiment of a couple of folks that are upset about the stability of the platform. That said, most boards are having similar problems and most new platforms have a lot of problems at launch. Many Intel platforms have problems at launch too (x79, x99 come to mind). Sometimes the companies don't make great progress on solving problems until things are in the hands of a many users. Sometimes they solve this via "soft launches" and whatnot where reviewers become the beta testers - but this has its downsides as well.

When I bought my Ryzen components I knew it was going to be a bumpy ride. I read through this thread before purchasing as well as some others. I ended up with the C6H almost ENTIRELY because of elmor and Asus's support on this thread. Frequent BIOS updates, feedback, answered questions, and useful utilities are some examples of this. I almost certainly would have gone with another brand if not for this support.

That said, my Ryzen stuff is still not in a 24/7 rig. It's on a test bench and it's not going into a rig until I can get it to work reliably with a modest overclock. I've had some regressions in the new BIOSes vs 1002 and I'm not happy with a few unpredictable behaviors and cold boot issues. I've found a little dose of patience and it's just an experimental rig for the time being. I must admit I'm kind of enjoying the ride and I've been trying to contribute by taking data when I can. I hope I can get it stable soon so it can get more use, but for the time being I'm enjoying things. The only thing that would upset me is to find out the boards have a physical defect that can't be fixed via firmware - but at the moment I haven't seen any indications of that being likely.

I sure hope not, and if there is a defect they had better do a cross ship fast RMA for everyone. We don't ALL play games, some of us need a computer for daily business. I play games sometimes, but do business work on my computer all day. So far it has been OK for that other then when I shut the computer off, lol. I have learned to just leave it on until windows makes me update something. But THEY had to know of these issues and that people use computers for work and it should be 100% stable and compatible before release. They rushed it out, plain and simple.
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That has been my exact problem. I have the G.Skill Trident Z RGB CL14 16GB kit.

No CPU overclocking here.

First 1700 runs memory at max 2933MHz 14-14-14-34.
Second 1700 runs memory at 3200MHz 14-14-14-34.

Have tweaked so many settings trying to get them working -- so hopefully people do not respond with "it works for me" or "just try more boot dram voltage"
its why i'm really hoping the may update allows kits stuck at 2933mhz, and i'm not talking about hynix, i'm talking about people like us with single rank samsung 2x8gb kits, to be able to hit at least 3200. i ran out of my 30 day return window with my 1800x. so i'm stuck with it unless i want to sell it for a loss, which i really don't.

when i think back to my gaming 5 all i could think of is maybe the way gigabyte had their bios at the time configured allow it to play nice with my ryzens shortcomings and possibly changes asus has done with the crosshair doesn't allow my ryzen to play nice. entire situation is just all wonky.
Edited by muffins - 4/13/17 at 11:44am
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its why i'm really hoping the may update allows kits stuck at 2933mhz, and i'm not talking about hynix, i'm talking about people like us with single rank samsung 2x8gb kits, to be able to hit at least 3200. i ran out of my 30 day return window with my 1800x. so i'm stuck with it unless i want to sell it for a loss, which i really don't.

when i think back to my gaming 5 all i could think of is maybe the way gigabyte had their bios at the time configured allow it to play nice with my ryzens imc and possibly changes asus has done with the crosshair doesn't allow my ryzen to play nice. my ryzen might have a decent imc while people like elmor some how landed ryzens with perfect imc.

Has anyone had any other motherboards or been reading any of the other forums about if this theory is specific to ASUS or not?

Because frankly, this last BIOS update BROKE my 3200mhz. So it clearly isn't my CPU, it's the BIOS.
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I'm kind of disappointed now, I got all the parts for my new 1800x build today but my current Noctua NH-D15 won't mount on the CH6.
I see that the mounting kit for AMD that was packaged in the NH-D15 had two brackets that were something like 1cm too short in order to reach across the mounting holes.

So my only assumption is that the backplate mounted on the CH6 is in fact using the AM4 mounting holes?
In any case, I already have an order for the AM4 mounting kit sent from Noctua but it won't be here until after Easter This sucks. frown.gif
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