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post #9151 of 17390
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Originally Posted by hughjazz44 View Post

You're thinking about this totally wrong. It's not designed to sustain the XFR frequency. AMD isn't selling you a 4.1GHz CPU, then purposely gimping it to 3.7GHz to save watts. They're selling you a 3.7GHz CPU, and giving you the added benefit of brief bursts of speed. They could've just as easily said - 3.7GHz. Period. No boost. No XFR. No nothing. If you want 4.1GHz, pay us $200 more for the hyper-binned 4.1Ghz variant.

I'm already in agreement with you on that, but I'm not in agreement on letting it function in such a limited fashion. Boosts are pretty much worthless as is and you're not likely to notice the difference, as an every-day PC user who doesn't use monitoring software or look at bios screens on a constant basis. So as you say they may as well not have had the boost at all and sold $500 processors that just do 3700, it just looks prettier in advertisement with some sort of boost mechanism.
post #9152 of 17390
And honestly, XFR as its advertised should have removed our needs to go and set manual overclocks. "increase frequency as thermal conditions allow". That right there means I should have been at 4100mhz on all cores without having to do anything in bios at all, besides fix memory timings, easy. That is how I took it before Ryzen was released, and its quite disappointing. My cooling solution clearly allows me to do 4150mhz on all cores, but XFR didn't give me that.

Perhaps as the architecture matures Ryzen will become better at that.
post #9153 of 17390
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Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS View Post

Not tuned yet.


Wow that is amazing! How did you get the latencies so low? Can you give details on your voltages and other settings?
post #9154 of 17390
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Originally Posted by Keith Myers View Post

Not true. I purchased the Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4 cooler from Amazon back on 14 March while I waited for Corsair to ship their AM4 backplate. This is the Special Edition version of the NH-D15 and does not have the AM3 parts or any Intel parts. Only for AM4.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NC06ZYT/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
it is true as i was talking about the regular d15/d15s.
post #9155 of 17390
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Originally Posted by Reikoji View Post

And honestly, XFR as its advertised should have removed our needs to go and set manual overclocks. "increase frequency as thermal conditions allow". That right there means I should have been at 4100mhz on all cores without having to do anything in bios at all, besides fix memory timings, easy. That is how I took it before Ryzen was released, and its quite disappointing. My cooling solution clearly allows me to do 4150mhz on all cores, but XFR didn't give me that.

Perhaps as the architecture matures Ryzen will become better at that.

XFR DOES work all the time, but not in conjunction with boost clocks. My 1700X (rated at 3.4GHz) will cruise at 3.5GHz on all cores all day long. The 100MHz XFR is added to the base clock. Single cores will jump to 3.8GHz under load, and single threads to 3.9Ghz sometimes (with both boost AND XFR).
post #9156 of 17390
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Originally Posted by hughjazz44 View Post

XFR DOES work all the time, but not in conjunction with boost clocks. My 1700X (rated at 3.4GHz) will cruise at 3.5GHz on all cores all day long. The 100MHz XFR is added to the base clock. Single cores will jump to 3.8GHz under load, and single threads to 3.9Ghz sometimes (with both boost AND XFR).

XFR works all the time yes, i'm referring to the boost not working all the time when the boost technically should be applied.
post #9157 of 17390
Win10 Pro (+creator)
C6H BIOS: 0083
Ryzen 1800X
Corsair H60 push-pull setup watercooled
OC: No OC, standard settings.
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I was following this thread even before I bought the whole setup and I am happy to get so much info on this, great work, guys!
But I have some troubles that I seem to not be able to fix as it might be software problem, maybe you know something:

1) My temperatures have been fluctuating since the beginning, even without the creators update I've had a picture like this:


It randomly spikes between 41°C and 59°C I can't see a pattern, as the frequency doesn't change (according to the Suite software).
I tried other programs to read out the temps and they show the same behaviour. Every once in a while I can get to stabilize around 42°C, but I can't figure out when that happens.

Also, when I turn up the fans to full speed the temps rise mysteriously instead of going down. And the same pattern stays.

Are those temperature fluctuations normal? Is there anything I can do about it? What is going on with my board?


2) While re-calibrating the fans (cause the board seems to randomly get the idea of my fans being changed), the board shut down all fans at once, including the water pump (always happens at 80% calibration) and then sits there until it overheats. At first I didn't recognize, but then the pc shut down. When I booted again, everything was working and I got the "CPU temp too high" message. It cooled down and so far I guess there's been no damage caused by this. But this shouldn't happen on stock settings with a software that comes with the mainboard. Also fan profiles get lost everytime the fans "get changed".

I know I could ask ASUS customer support, but I guess you guys know more about this.
And again, I just run this thing on stock settings, trying to figure out what temperature it actually idles on and how I can get it to idle below 40°C.
But so far, it just does what it wants, which is frustrating.
Never had these problems before on the FX-8350 and that one did run on oc...

I'm pretty new to this, so I guess I could be doing something wrong. But I checked everything, coolers, no bubbles in the cooling paste, pump ist running at 100% all the time, fans are good, I don't know. Room temp is about 20-24°C so it shouldn't really fluctuate or heat up that much without being under load.
post #9158 of 17390
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Originally Posted by mackanz View Post

I'm afraid i might have the lemon you haven't seen yet. Wont go past 3.65 realbench stable no matter what vcore i give it. Heat isn't an issue. Having a hard time getting over 50c.
Haven't tried SOC over 0.9 yet though. Does it help on cpu overclock too and not just memory overclock?

CPu loadline calibration have no impact on cpu overclock right? Just to keep the vcore drop in check?

I have a feeling i am missing something obvious though.
My first 1700x was very similar to this, just slightly better at most. Of course in my feeble efforts to make it something it was not, zapped the hell out of it (1.8v electrocution) only to make it worst redface.gif. Now I would recommend testing it at stock, if it does not pass testing - RMA it or exchange it if you can. Now if you overvolted it like I did, hang it on the wall as a reminder to triple and quadruple check everything you do. thumb.gif
Edited by noko59 - 4/13/17 at 6:28pm
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post #9159 of 17390
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Originally Posted by Merboe View Post

Win10 Pro (+creator)
C6H BIOS: 0083
Ryzen 1800X
Corsair H60 push-pull setup watercooled
OC: No OC, standard settings.
----
I was following this thread even before I bought the whole setup and I am happy to get so much info on this, great work, guys!
But I have some troubles that I seem to not be able to fix as it might be software problem, maybe you know something:

1) My temperatures have been fluctuating since the beginning, even without the creators update I've had a picture like this:


It randomly spikes between 41°C and 59°C I can't see a pattern, as the frequency doesn't change (according to the Suite software).
I tried other programs to read out the temps and they show the same behaviour. Every once in a while I can get to stabilize around 42°C, but I can't figure out when that happens.

Also, when I turn up the fans to full speed the temps rise mysteriously instead of going down. And the same pattern stays.

Are those temperature fluctuations normal? Is there anything I can do about it? What is going on with my board?


2) While re-calibrating the fans (cause the board seems to randomly get the idea of my fans being changed), the board shut down all fans at once, including the water pump (always happens at 80% calibration) and then sits there until it overheats. At first I didn't recognize, but then the pc shut down. When I booted again, everything was working and I got the "CPU temp too high" message. It cooled down and so far I guess there's been no damage caused by this. But this shouldn't happen on stock settings with a software that comes with the mainboard. Also fan profiles get lost everytime the fans "get changed".

I know I could ask ASUS customer support, but I guess you guys know more about this.
And again, I just run this thing on stock settings, trying to figure out what temperature it actually idles on and how I can get it to idle below 40°C.
But so far, it just does what it wants, which is frustrating.
Never had these problems before on the FX-8350 and that one did run on oc...

I'm pretty new to this, so I guess I could be doing something wrong. But I checked everything, coolers, no bubbles in the cooling paste, pump ist running at 100% all the time, fans are good, I don't know. Room temp is about 20-24°C so it shouldn't really fluctuate or heat up that much without being under load.

That has been a thing since earlier bios. I don't think it has to do with the Motherboard, but instead with processes happening in the backround. I took time to watch it and it does eventually die down and finally idle. It's particularly annoying when you have your fans basing their speeds off of CPU temp.

I have not witnessed the fan calibration issue yet. AI suite 3 Fan Expert 4?
Edited by Reikoji - 4/13/17 at 6:15pm
post #9160 of 17390
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Originally Posted by noko59 View Post

My first 1700x was very similar to this, just slightly better at most. Of course in my feeble efforts to make it something it was not, zapped the hell out of it (1.8v electrocution) only to make it worst redface.gif. Now I would recommend testing it at stock, if it does not pass testing - RMA it or exchange it if you can. Now if you overvolted it like I did, hang it on the wall as a reminder to triple and quadruple everything you do. thumb.gif

Your second, was it a lot beter?
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