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post #9171 of 17471
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Originally Posted by Reikoji View Post

Try closing suite 3 and sonic studio 3 and see if those spikes persist.



interesting...it goes down to 37°C idle with full fans (instead of 41°C) and it remains stable at that until I do something...
That sounds more like what I wanted it to be...so I guess it's the suite software that's messed up...

Sonic Studio won't even start anymore now. biggrin.gif
post #9172 of 17471
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Originally Posted by Merboe View Post



interesting...it goes down to 37°C idle with full fans (instead of 41°C) and it remains stable at that until I do something...
That sounds more like what I wanted it to be...so I guess it's the suite software that's messed up...

Sonic Studio won't even start anymore now. biggrin.gif

i figured it would be suite 3. Many just unistall it due to its clunkyness, but i still find it useful. It updates readings real slowly, but apparently too aggressively. Can probably get sonic studio restarted with a reboot.
post #9173 of 17471
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Originally Posted by Reikoji View Post

i figured it would be suite 3. Many just unistall it due to its clunkyness, but i still find it useful. It updates readings real slowly, but apparently too aggressively. Can probably get sonic studio restarted with a reboot.

Yes, I would like to have the fan control & a temperature gauge just on my desktop or in the taskbar. That'd be the easiest thing. Because I want to monitor temps while running some games or doing 3D stuff, just to see how much of an impact it actually has. But with jumps like this on idle, I can't do anything reliable. Guess I'll have to look for a different software or wait until suite gets updated.

Thanks! thumb.gif
post #9174 of 17471
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Originally Posted by gupsterg View Post

@members

Those wishing to see collection of how RAM is effecting say benches I started a new section in my thread linked in sig. So far only Cinebench there with / without Performance bias for 3.8GHz with 3200MHz / 2933MHz / 2666MHz / 2400MHz / 2133MHz. Will aim to add some more bits there ASAP smile.gif .

Good Information and good work, gup, all your effort is appreciated.
post #9175 of 17471
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Originally Posted by Merboe View Post

Yes, I would like to have the fan control & a temperature gauge just on my desktop or in the taskbar. That'd be the easiest thing. Because I want to monitor temps while running some games or doing 3D stuff, just to see how much of an impact it actually has. But with jumps like this on idle, I can't do anything reliable. Guess I'll have to look for a different software or wait until suite gets updated.

Thanks! thumb.gif

If you dont have HWinfo yet you should dload it.

https://www.hwinfo.com/

Since my KBD has LCD screen i monitor stuff with that.
post #9176 of 17471
This platform is goofy as hell. I will try and report back over the weekend when I get max stable ram and cpu overclocks, but I started 2 weeks ago with a 1700 on 1002 bios and never changed the bios. I also have 8X2 G.Skill Tridentz 3600 C16 B-die. I just got an 1800x and this is looking bad and weird.

Results:
1700 Memory ran completely fine at 104,108,109,110, 117 BCLKs up to 3430mhz ddr 16-16-16-16-36 perfectly stable. But REFUSED to run at 3200mhz no matter what I tried!
1800x Memory will ONLY run at 3200mhz. ANY BCLK overclocking at all makes memory drop down to like 2126mhz and Cas 15, WTH? I changed NOTHING BUT THE CPU. The cpu is what is dictating what your memory will run at. I can't believe this, but if true I will have to decide between a 3.9ghz 1700 with 3430 memory or a 1800x with 3200 memory but hopefully 4 or 4.1 ghz, will take some testing. This is all incredible odd and I might flash to bios 81 to see if my memory will go any higher than 3200 like it did before.
Or is there something I am missing, like after I swapped the cpus I have to set something in the bios or do something to retrain the memory? Usually all I had to do was his reset 3 or 4 times on a faild 0d and then it would just retrain and go back to the 3430mhz I was running at 100% stable.

P.S. If it matters, the 1700 is Malaysia and the new 1800X is China
Edited by hotstocks - 4/13/17 at 7:59pm
post #9177 of 17471
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Originally Posted by Reikoji View Post

If you dont have HWinfo yet you should dload it.

https://www.hwinfo.com/

Since my KBD has LCD screen i monitor stuff with that.

HWinfo has the same fluctuations as Suite 3 has, I just tried the latest update today, still jumps around like crazy.
Tctl is 39 - 58C on idle.
CPU (under C6H column) is 44 - 63C idle.
CPU (socket) is 44 - 64C idle

and none of them matches up with the other.

so I am as confused as before...^^
Edited by Merboe - 4/13/17 at 8:12pm
post #9178 of 17471
I havent had many spikes with HWinfo running as the only monitor.

Wait CPU (Socket) jumps up like that for you too? Mines is practically stationary in all cases, and never exceeded CPU temp.
Edited by Reikoji - 4/13/17 at 8:21pm
post #9179 of 17471
OK, finally had time to finish my build and start with OC testing.

Specs: 1800X, 64GB RAM (4x16GB, F4-3200C14Q-64GVR), custom WC rig with CPU+GPU (980 Ti) ending with the radiator in front of my AC unit.

First tried to get the RAM up to spec. Failed to boot at 140 BCLK (GPU didn't like it), got it to boot on 120 BCLK, 3200 and CAS 14, but it wasn't stable in IBT with up to 1.45v DDR, 1.15v SOC and quite relaxed timings.

Left the BCLK back to 100 and the RAM on 2666 and started playing with the CPU instead. Working with P-States, vCore on offset:

4.0GHz - Fully stable, auto vcore, no offset
4.1GHz - boots at +25mv, IBT Very High stable at +112mv (vCore up to 1.439)
4.15GHz - boots at +150mv, CPU-Z and CB15 bench-able, IBT unstable
4.2GHz - boots at +175mv, CPU-Z and CB15 bench-able, IBT unstable
4.25GHz - boots at +175mv, CPU-Z bench-able, can't handle CB15
4.3GHz - boots at +175mv, unbench-able

Anything over 4.1GHz gets the vCore above 1.45v, so I'll probably stick with 4.1GHz as my daily config. At +175mv I was hitting 1.52v+ on vCore, so I wasn't comfortable trying even to bench on that. Might try again later just to get a CB15 @ 4.3GHz :-)

Next I'll be trying to get that 4.1GHz with 120BCLK and try to get my memory to work properly at 3200... Not going to be easy.
    
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post #9180 of 17471
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Originally Posted by r4m0n View Post

OK, finally had time to finish my build and start with OC testing.

Specs: 1800X, 64GB RAM (4x16GB, F4-3200C14Q-64GVR), custom WC rig with CPU+GPU (980 Ti) ending with the radiator in front of my AC unit.

First tried to get the RAM up to spec. Failed to boot at 140 BCLK (GPU didn't like it), got it to boot on 120 BCLK, 3200 and CAS 14, but it wasn't stable in IBT with up to 1.45v DDR, 1.15v SOC and quite relaxed timings.

Left the BCLK back to 100 and the RAM on 2666 and started playing with the CPU instead. Working with P-States, vCore on offset:

4.0GHz - Fully stable, auto vcore, no offset
4.1GHz - boots at +25mv, IBT Very High stable at +112mv (vCore up to 1.439)
4.15GHz - boots at +150mv, CPU-Z and CB15 bench-able, IBT unstable
4.2GHz - boots at +175mv, CPU-Z and CB15 bench-able, IBT unstable
4.25GHz - boots at +175mv, CPU-Z bench-able, can't handle CB15
4.3GHz - boots at +175mv, unbench-able

Anything over 4.1GHz gets the vCore above 1.45v, so I'll probably stick with 4.1GHz as my daily config. At +175mv I was hitting 1.52v+ on vCore, so I wasn't comfortable trying even to bench on that. Might try again later just to get a CB15 @ 4.3GHz :-)

Next I'll be trying to get that 4.1GHz with 120BCLK and try to get my memory to work properly at 3200... Not going to be easy.

You pretty much have one of the good ones if you can 4ghz on auto voltage. thumb.gif

Since ours is pretty much the same (cept i havent bothered with passed 4.2ghz), your 4.15ghz should be stable with 1.5v if you become willing. 2nd option is 1.45v and LLC 3, but use of LLC isn't recomended. Not sure about with IBT tho, I dont use that.
Edited by Reikoji - 4/13/17 at 9:03pm
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