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Originally Posted by goncalossilva View Post

Will switch to watercooling by the end of May. Until then, my TC14PE is working mostly fine (IBT AVX is way to hot on 4GHz though).

Still, using fluid temp as the source of truth seems very optimistic to me.

I'm not saying you shouldnt pay attention to your cpu temps. However, fluid temps increase a lot under load. For me my water idles in the 30-32c area depending on ambient. Moment everything gets loaded this can go up to 46c if the fans are doing nothing or near it. As the example I gave before. Since speedfan doesn't work with x370. Assuming your whole pc is on water. f I were to set my fan control based on the cpu, in games my gpu would just get hotter and hotter since the cpu is often seeing very little load and temp increase. While an increase in load on the gpu or cpu will raise fluid temp.
post #9302 of 16819
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Originally Posted by huyee View Post

I bought the exact same plastic backplate you linked, and it works for the X62 using AM3 bracket. The screw go in loosely onto the backplate but once the bracket and the cooler is attached, it's snug.
However I also have the original H100i, none of the screw fit the backplate (thread size is larger than the hole), so I'm not confident that the h100iv2 would work. Maybe someone else can confirm it.
Else, you can try ebay, they have very cheap metal back plate last time I checked.

Thanks for the quick reply, I pulled the trigger on it just to be safe, but it would be nice if someone could confirm for sure if it will work. thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by alucardis666 View Post

Anyone can confirm this working with H100i V2? I know that the board has mounting holes for both but I only have a plastic back plate and in this video from paul's hardware idk if thats metal looking back plate is from the H100i or from the board. What I'm referring to is @ the 1 minute mark.

Thanks in advance!

Is this what I'd need?

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Bracket-socket-Plate-Screws/dp/B0071RSMKA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492192539&sr=8-1&keywords=am3+backplate

The stock backplate that came with the asus C6H did not work for me with the Corsair am4 front bracket. Luckily the stock bracket from the Gigabyte motherboard worked with the screws, so I sent the Gigabyte back to Newegg with the asus back bracket 😉
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Someone with a non X CPU (1700): What is your idle Tctl when you disable the tray background processed, disable Windows Defender/Antivirus (causes +10 C spikes during idle), use the "Power Safer" power profile and disable Sense Skew in BIOS?

Not on Win 10. Win 7, tCTL min is ~2°C lower than mobo sensor.

Yellow box is ~ location of mobo sensor.





So has good airflow to it IMO, due to Fury X with AIO used no heat is being dumped from GPU in case and storage is way up in case.




Some f@h run data. (Click to show)






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0081_fh.zip 2167k .zip file

I have rep'd some of your posts on temp analysis of your CPU wink.gif , I have been planning to emulate your testing but just been busy with other stuff redface.gif .
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Hopefully someone can help me with an issue that is driving me absolutely insane.

I recently overclocked my memory to 3200mhz and switched to using pstate for my overclock. Now every few minutes, while gaming or doing anything, I get the "usb device connected" sound playing randomly. I've checked device manager and nothing is connecting or disconnecting, so I have no idea what the hell is going on....
Can anyone help with this? It's literally driving me crazy.
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Not had your issue redface.gif , no experience to share redface.gif .
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post #9307 of 16819
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Originally Posted by AndehX View Post

Can anyone help with this? It's literally driving me crazy.

Hi!

Download this tool: http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/usb_log_view.html leave it open and it will tell you what is disconnecting/connecting on your system!

Hope it helps!
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Originally Posted by nycgtr View Post

I'm not saying you shouldnt pay attention to your cpu temps. However, fluid temps increase a lot under load. For me my water idles in the 30-32c area depending on ambient. Moment everything gets loaded this can go up to 46c if the fans are doing nothing or near it. As the example I gave before. Since speedfan doesn't work with x370. Assuming your whole pc is on water. f I were to set my fan control based on the cpu, in games my gpu would just get hotter and hotter since the cpu is often seeing very little load and temp increase. While an increase in load on the gpu or cpu will raise fluid temp.

Great insight, thanks for sharing! +rep

(Also, I understood what you meant right after positing, but didn't edit my comment fast enough tongue.gif)
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Can anyone help with this? It's literally driving me crazy.

Go to Device Manager -> Universal Serial Bus Controllers, and then for each of them right click -> Properties -> Power Management and unselect "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power". Some of the entries won't have this option, it's OK. Hope it fixes your problem, I had a similar one.
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Thanks for the reports on the non X so far. What am I up to?

Just yesterday it dawned on me that in all the dynamic offset and sense skewing mess I missed something. And indeed I did, namely: when Sense Skew is disabled my Tctl is around 40 C, while the CPU socket sensor is around 23 C and ambient about 21 C. This is at full idle, stock CPU with cores clocked down and running at ultra-low voltage.

What this means is: My X CPU does use a fixed offset of +20 C, but on top of that it uses the various dynamic offsets I reported about. That is unless you believe that very specific CPU loads do always lead to a very reproducible increase in temperature by quite exact 10/20 (and maybe 30) C steps.

One thing to mention here: Tctl seems to be somewhat imprecise, because with the -20 C included it repeatedly can drop about 0.5 - 1 C lower than my ambient. Maybe my AIO is performing some slight compression/decompression between the pump and radiator, though, you never know.

Off to the cinema now. Have fun everyone!
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Originally Posted by Alwrath View Post

The stock backplate that came with the asus C6H did not work for me with the Corsair am4 front bracket. Luckily the stock bracket from the Gigabyte motherboard worked with the screws, so I sent the Gigabyte back to Newegg with the asus back bracket 😉

Sneaky little devil. thumb.gif
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