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You wimp my 980ti is waiting for proper DX12 card not his Emulated **** that pascal offers

Agree. I am still on my MSI 970 Gamming OC'd to 1500mhz.. I am hanging on until Vega and doing just fine. thumb.gif

Although I am finding that with my Ryzen rig I have a stable OC on the GPU (3 hour stress testing) but certain games pitch a fit and I have to find the best OC for that particular game. For instance the best I can do on Rainbow Six Siege is 1350mhz and no memory OC of any kind or windows disconnects the GPU form the system. While on Battlefield 1 I can get 1450mhz but I have to turn down the memory overclock to a moderate +100mhz on the memory or the game locks up. So weird.
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I am using Tctl and wrote that explicitly in my post. Where did I convey the idea that I wasn't?

Also, out of curiosity, what is your Tctl after a few minutes of IBT AVX very high / maximum? What cooler are you using?

I'm on water, my tctl after 30mins of realbench reaches like 50°C.
    
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One thing to mention here: Tctl seems to be somewhat imprecise

I would think it is always going to have this imprecision. As there are 20 sensors in die, we see highest value and rotating is going on from what The Stilt said. It would have been great if AMD allowed all 20 to be seen.

There are several things which I think are poorly implemented compared with i5 4690K/Z97. Not yet done any HWBot subs, but one thing rolling around my head is I will miss how you could use a Intel XTU profile to fill out a sub, be great if Ryzen Master had something like that. Also when I participated in some OC eSports I recall XTU profiles used for some subs.
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I would think it is always going to have this imprecision. As there are 20 sensors in die, we see highest value and rotating is going on from what The Stilt said. It would have been great if AMD allowed all 20 to be seen.

There are several things which I think are poorly implemented compared with i5 4690K/Z97. Not yet done any HWBot subs, but one thing rolling around my head is I will miss how you could use a Intel XTU profile to fill out a sub, be great if Ryzen Master had something like that. Also when I participated in some OC eSports I recall XTU profiles used for some subs.

True so the highest value we see is the core temp like we do on Intel, that was always the temp i went with. Sure one core might run cooler but considering this is SOLDERED all the cores will run pretty damn close to each other. I know once i delided and ran bare die my cores were all within 5°C of each other.
    
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I defected mad.gif really wanted an RX Vega in my machine, but since there isn't any I bought a 1080ti and waterblock. I feel happy and sad at the same time... redface.gif

Keeping my RyZen 7 1800x@4Ghz happy with Twin RX480s till Vega appears.
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I did a quick encode test with Doom on Vulkan on ultra settings. I am amazed I can run these settings while recording with a GTX 680 :O

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True so the highest value we see is the core temp like we do on Intel, that was always the temp i went with. Sure one core might run cooler but considering this is SOLDERED all the cores will run pretty damn close to each other. I know once i delided and ran bare die my cores were all within 5°C of each other.

5°C as number is low. When we view it as % vs another core it could be ~10% difference, which may seem more significant. Mine was not delided, nor on WC or AIO, just decent air.

Loaded ~8°C within current column, ~7°C within max column

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Idle variation lower.

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Like I posted before my 1st R7 had less of a dimple in centre, my 2nd more. At the time I was using an Archon SB-E X2, this has a convex base and was less flatter than my recently acquired Archon IB-E X2. I forgot to take pics of each CPU/HSF base against metal ruler edge redface.gif . But definitely the flatter IB base makes better contact with my 2nd R7 compared with SB. As now TIM has been settling down I see improved temps compared with using SB. I plan to lap HSF base and CPU at some point.

There is post in my thread in sig, even if IHS soldered on a bad mount I had issues with stability on 2nd CPU and there was quite a bit of contact in centre between IHS/HSF.
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Can someone help out, I am really confused. Going from a 1700 which reported temperatures acurately in Asus and Hwinfo, I am having a nightmare with my 1800X
I am stress testing it with the hottest most demanding method, IBT maximum. To get 4Ghz stable I need 1.45v and LLC2. which I guess is kinda average, if anyone can suggest tweaks to get volts lower, great. Also using vsoc 1.125v , spread spectrum disabled, forget what else.. In any casee I have no FREAKING clue at what my real temperature is! I have a Corsair H100i for cooling with huge case airflow.
What I DON'T get is that Asus software and Hwinfo say my cpu is at 82-92C when stress testing, but CPU (Tdie) is 20C lower at 72C of course.
Now Corsair Link shows 86C cpu but 36.8C water pump temperature. There is NO WAY that those two numbers are that far apart, either the water is
a lot hotter than 36.8C or the cpu is a lot cooler than 86C. With a normal hsf, I would just touch it and know the temperature is ok or not, but with this AIO
I can't understand what my real cpu temp is and if it is safe for 24/7. And yes my block is seated with the thumb screws hand tightened very tight and Antec Formula 5 paste,
which is Arctic Silver 5.
Any help on understanding my real cpu and water temp would be appreciated. From what I gather, Ryzens just run hot and even stock 1700 with wraith cooler will hit 80-95C stress testing, so maybe I am worrying about nothing?
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well i guess all of us who bought single rank kits made a huge mistake. now they're saying dual rank kits are better than single rank kits for ryzen rolleyes.gif dual rank 2400 is faster than 2666mhz single rank according to computerbase.de and dual rank 2666 is as fast as single rank 3200. even with 3200 having tighter timings rolleyes.gif
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Someone with a non X CPU (1700): What is your idle Tctl when you disable the tray background processed, disable Windows Defender/Antivirus (causes +10 C spikes during idle), use the "Power Safer" power profile and disable Sense Skew in BIOS?

With everything default on the motherboard and skew disabled with no additional background processes and Defender disabled (nothing in tray but HWiNFO):

Ambient - 24.3
Tctl - 26.5
CPU - 31
Socket - 27
CPU package power ~13w

6 of the 8 cores have downclocked, the other 2 bounce between 3100-3700mhz
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