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Look, your Socket temp is 15 C lower than Tctl/Tdie, this fits my Tdie vs. Socket readings. I will push socket temp now, by disabling cooling. This will push Tctl to 95 C, then soft throttling will happen and the offsets decrease.
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Any advice, maybe I just got a bad 1800X. I mean the thing turns off/black screen needing a reboot just trying to run Intel Burn Test AT STOCK.
So I just flash from 1002 to 81 to see if that helps and it doesn't. Should this cpu not die in IBT stock or does it need bios settings or extra volts
to pass this test? Hwinfo is showing volts from .825 to 1.52v (that is usually why I don't run stock, I just set 1.4v and 4X100 and it should work)
Temps are anywhere between 47C and 70C. Funny thing is EVERY other benchmark and stress test works. Passes Realbench, Prime95, and
even OCCT with AVX Capable Linpack. So I am starting to think Intel Burn Test (which is AVX Linpack) has the problem, and not the cpu. Maybe
there is just some incompatibility with Ryzen and IBT. Maybe we shouldn't be judging stability on this one wonky test. But it is odd that my 1700
passes IBT. Thoughts?

Clearly a voltage issue..
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Clearly a voltage issue..

It's clearly a "I'll pick some random settings and try it issue" but that is about as far as I'll go.
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This was the image from the run with everything disabled:


This is at 3.9x with everything still disabled (which spit out a WHEA around run seven)

It is absolutely possible to be stable under IBT at maximum settings. Thinking you jump to 4ghz and do it just isnt going to happen without some work.

No, I have been IBT stable with a 1700 for 2 weeks. But an 1800X just kills the computer to off within a few minutes, EVEN AT STOCK. While OCCT Linpack AVX is perfectly stable. I am starting to think that the X chips have something that doesn't play nice with IBT because I can swap the 1700 in and everything passes then swap the 1800X in and it can't pass IBT at stock or any speeds or volts whatsoever, yet OCCT Linpack AVX is the same test and it passes just fine?
Sorry about your pictures getting in the quote.
Edited by hotstocks - 4/14/17 at 6:07pm
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32GB:


Hello

Nice results Raja. And with proper memory stability testing as well.
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Clearly a voltage issue..

How can it be a voltage issue AT STOCK? Not even trying to overclock it yet. Just tried it stock in 1002 and failed IBT, then flashed to 81 and tried stock and failed IBT. It can go to 4ghz and pass everything else, but I am talking running it completely stock like a newb or pre-built computer, the computer turns off after a few minutes of IBT and IBT only. And it is not the PSU, 1000w Corsair, and like I said the 1700 ran fine, 3.9ghz and never failed IBT at stock or overclocked unless I put too low voltage. The 1800X fails no matter what, stock, overclocked with voltage higher, ect. Will do more testing tonight overclocking it, maybe I'll forget stock as it obviously doesn't give enough volts or vdroop problem. Maybe I will use LLC stock or up voltage stock and see if it really is the chip or IBT that is messed up.

P.S. For the life of me I can't understand why OCCT with AVX Linpack is completely stable and supposedly the same exact test as IBT, yet IBT just kills the computer to shutdown.
Edited by hotstocks - 4/14/17 at 6:14pm
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No, I have been IBT stable with a 1700 for 2 weeks. But an 1800X just kills the computer to off within a few minutes, EVEN AT STOCK. While OCCT Linpack AVX is perfectly stable. I am starting to think that the X chips have something that doesn't play nice with IBT because I can swap the 1700 in and everything passes then swap the 1800X in and it can't pass IBT at stock or any speeds or volts whatsoever, yet OCCT Linpack AVX is the same test and it passes just fine?
Sorry about your pictures getting in the quote.

If we start bickering about pictures making it into a post, we've sunk to an all time low LOL. As to your theory, the 1800x isn't any different than the 1700; they're the exact same processors that were binned by voltage (as confirmed by Kyle Bennett of HardOCP during talks with AMD directly); those of us with the 1700 drew the short straw in this regard. If you cant pass with all defaults (memory as well), you need to start addressing individual components to diagnose what is leading to the problem.
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If I go to support page, there are like 20 memory kits supported and 2 BIOSes, if I go to the Prime x370 Pro, there are like 1100 memory kits supported and 5 BIOSes.
Asus stopped supporting this board ? How you guys getting new BIOSes ?

This may be a strong reason not to go C6H, it seems they don't care too much about the "high-end".
I'm still waiting for that April update to arrive.
Edited by GraveNoX - 4/14/17 at 6:15pm
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If I go to support page, there are like 20 memory kits supported and 2 BIOSes, if I go to the Prime x370 Pro, there are like 1100 memory kits supported and 5 BIOSes.
Asus stopped supporting this board ? How you guys getting new BIOSes ?

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If we start bickering about pictures making it into a post, we've sunk to an all time low LOL. As to your theory, the 1800x isn't any different than the 1700; they're the exact same processors that were binned by voltage (as confirmed by Kyle Bennett of HardOCP during talks with AMD directly); those of us with the 1700 drew the short straw in this regard. If you cant pass with all defaults (memory as well), you need to start addressing individual components to diagnose what is leading to the problem.

Even after I flashed to 81, could there be something retained in a bios setting I don't know about that isn't playing nice with my 1800X vs the old 1700? Do I need to do a battery pull or some cmos clear with power on or off? If not I'm going to exchange this 1800X or go back to the 1700 because I had ZERO problems with the 1700 for 2 weeks at 3.9ghz. I wanted to try for 4ghz so got a 1800X, but the thing isn't even stable at STOCK with IBT turning off the computer with the exact same components, it is not the components. I have been overclocking for 20 years, either I have a bad 1800X or IBT is having a major problem with the 1800X I have for some reason, maybe bios related, but like I said, same hardware and new flash on bios, F5 load optimized defaults..You just don't use the exact same computer test bed and ONLY change from a 1700 to 1800X and go from NO problems with IBT to IBT just turning off the computer. I repeat nothing changed but the processor, and nothing makes it pass IBT even at stock.
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