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Magic
Great answer for your 890th post. It helped. It surely did.
You really want to hit that 1000 posts as soon as possible.
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Great answer for your 890th post. It helped. It surely did.
You really want to hit that 1000 posts as soon as possible.

The answer you seek is on the 1st post of the thread. its updated with important need to know info that ends up lost in the many pages, including bios. If you follow the thread closely you'll be able to catch guinea pig bios before the OP is updated.
Edited by Reikoji - 4/14/17 at 6:29pm
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Great answer for your 890th post. It helped. It surely did.
You really want to hit that 1000 posts as soon as possible.

I won a toaster too! It's amazing!
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Originally Posted by hotstocks View Post

Even after I flashed to 81, could there be something retained in a bios setting I don't know about that isn't playing nice with my 1800X vs the old 1700? Do I need to do a battery pull or some cmos clear with power on or off? If not I'm going to exchange this 1800X or go back to the 1700 because I had ZERO problems with the 1700 for 2 weeks at 3.9ghz. I wanted to try for 4ghz so got a 1800X, but the thing isn't even stable at STOCK with IBT turning off the computer with the exact same components, it is not the components. I have been overclocking for 20 years, either I have a bad 1800X or IBT is having a major problem with the 1800X I have for some reason, maybe bios related, but like I said, same hardware and new flash on bios, F5 load optimized defaults..You just don't use the exact same computer test bed and ONLY change from a 1700 to 1800X and go from NO problems with IBT to IBT just turning off the computer. I repeat nothing changed but the processor, and nothing makes it pass IBT even at stock.

Try running with a single stick of RAM. If that passes, try with the other.
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SOC @ 1.15V
DRAM Voltage @ 1.40V

DRAM timings as shown. 2666 memory ratio with 116.2 BCLK.


HTH

Well heck I was starting to do well by trying a BCLK raised into that
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SOC @ 1.15V
DRAM Voltage @ 1.40V

DRAM timings as shown. 2666 memory ratio with 116.2 BCLK.


HTH

I was trying out a BCLK clock and was getting some nice results, unfortunately, I happened to try some Audio and my Essence STX had disappeared as a device. Took me a minute to diagnose - "hmm, what's changed?". So back to bios and a 100 BCLK, and my sound card was back.

Looks like I'll have to restart from this point to see where I can get with these 4 sticks at 100 BCLK. Sigh.. 1 step forward and two back the last couple days tongue.gif
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Last big image for today. Look at the Statuscore oddities on the right. You can also see some hard throttling (x5.5) in action on the left. I forgot to draw one "ITB Pump" and one "Idle" line after the last "ITB No Pump", but you get the picture.


Edited by Timur Born - 4/14/17 at 6:56pm
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And just to mention this: Throttling only happens at stock CPU settings, when you overclock the CPU will keep running at full frequency until it crashes or reaches a thermal shutdown (practically impossible with Sense Skew enabled).
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Sick at home, so I have been doing some tweaking and OC trials.

I seem to have a massive vdroop on my board/CPU - take a look at the picture. This is pstate OC with P0 set at 3.9GHz and 1.35V, everything else on auto (spread spectrum off, switching frequency auto and CPU power phase control extreme). This is while running prime95:



Going anywhere above 3.9GHz crashes the PC because core voltage drops too much, i.e. from 1.356V idle to 1.275V load.

I have experimented with LLC settings and with LLC level 5 core voltage (SV12 TFN) is at a rocksteady 1.356V, while Vcore from the CHVI readout shows 1.373V up to 1.407V max.

With LLC5, CPU voltage on auto and p0 at 1.35V I can go to 4GHz but sometimes the system crashes during prime95, Cinebench R15 passes. I'd say I need a little more voltage to make it pass, but I need to go to bed now so I'll resume later.

Also from other people who have measured probelt we know that this is basically just the Vcore reading from the VRM, CH VI part from HWinfo.

I do have a DMM but I didn't grow the balls to measure at the CPU socket fearing I'd short something when not holding super-steady since I don't feel so well.

If for example @elmor can tell me where exactly to measure on the socket, I'll do it just to confirm that I really have a massive Vdroop.

Edit: P.S.: F4-3200C14D-32GTZ still doesn't work with anything above 2666MHz 14-14-14-34, not even with looser timings. Am on 0082.
Edited by Mandarb - 4/14/17 at 7:15pm
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Search through the thread, there is one image showing which thermistors are for VCore and SOC. And another images shows one thermistor (lower left side from the back) that has more clearance on both sides than the other ones, this is a Vcore one.
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Originally Posted by Timur Born View Post

Search through the thread, there is one image showing which thermistors are for VCore and SOC. And another images shows one thermistor (lower left side from the back) that has more clearance on both sides than the other ones, this is a Vcore one.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1624603/rog-crosshair-vi-overclocking-thread/6890#post_25985296

I assume you mean the one on the bottom left? Will see if I can do it tomorrow, time for bed.

Also, anyone else experiencing such a high vcore drop going from idle to load?
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Another update on my end.


No amount of tweaking with 081, 082, 083 will net me 3200mhz on my R1700 with my corsair LPX 3200 ram. Tried ProcODT, VDDRBOOT, VDDR, etc. tweaking and can boot occasionally, but never stable.


Back to 1002, 100% stable 3200mhz first try with DOCP Standard.

Not sure what is going on, but definitely in my case the new BIOS group is a bust. mad.gif


Same here for me...... Back to 1002....
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