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post #9591 of 17018
K thx.

I will leave LLC on for now and see how far my chip can actually go with the new BIOS and then dial LLC back for permanent use at least to LLC 1 or 2 - using 3 right now.


What does sense my skew do?

Does it change my tctl ? It seems about 6-10c cooler with the new BIOS - or could that be due to the agesa code

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post #9592 of 17018
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You're a wizard Harry! I actually got past the white LED but now it's stuck on the green Boot LED with code 64.

EDIT: Keyboard also lights up now but still no signal because as said stuck on Boot LED

Since unplugging the GPU worked such wonders I did so for all the other connectors on the MB aswell and now I acutalle made it to the UEFI so I might actually be good. I'll try to change some settings so I don't get CPU fan error and see if it still works after a reboot
post #9593 of 17018
@YpsiNine

+rep for share thumb.gif . I would roll with that 24/7 smile.gif .

CPU/DRAM Current Capacity I have not changed from whatever is default, did some bench runs yesterday for 4.0GHz @ ~1.475V with 3200MHz. See Raja@ASUS post linked here.

@newguyagain

Sense MI Skew: [Disabled] on R7 1700 and "X" CPU [Auto] from what I have noted from posts / my experience on R7 1700 various UEFI versions. What is your CPU?
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What does sense my skew do?

Does it change my tctl ?

Yes.
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@YpsiNine

Sense MI Skew: [Disabled] on R7 1700 and "X" CPU [Auto] from what I have noted from posts / my experience on R7 1700 various UEFI versions.

I left it on auto for my 1700, working fine.
post #9595 of 17018
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Offset i think youll need to go positive and trial and error. If it helps with -.100 im at 1.256v at idle.

That worked, and I'm now at 3.9Ghz at 1.294V (using offset +0.200 with auto vcore)

Now I'm still not sure why my CPU is locked at 3.9 Ghz, I don't see downclocking.
I thought that when using PState 0 (FID=9C, DID=8, VID=3A) and offset voltage it would downclock automatically?

I guess I've missed something, and so far this is the only thing I've changed, PState + VCore Offset.

Here is the CPU-Z validation link at 3.9Ghz http://valid.x86.fr/v4ndjn and some cinebench and ycruncher at 2.5M decimals.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


@gupsterg I've used my old DMM to check Vcore during load and idle, and here is some info:
At load
DMM Vcore max 1.413 (HWinfo 1.417)
CPU core voltage max 1.394

At IDLE
I don't have like a single value here, but I see the vcore moving a lot.
It goes from 1.102v to 1.401v, and averaging around 1.35v

I guess my offset is pretty agressive for a 3.9Ghz and I can probably go below, but I tried +0.1250 already and it didn't work.

+0.1000v worked at 3.8Ghz doing a single pass of y-cruncher and 2 cinebench runs.

I know this is not enough to check stability, but so far I'm trying to find the wall for my CPU, and once I've got an idea of how far it can go and for how much voltage, then I'll go down to probably a 3.9 (or 4.0 if I'm lucky) at about 1.38v for 24/7 usage.

It's really pleasing to play with this overclocking session thumb.gif
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post #9596 of 17018
So... In my excitement I left the CMOS jumper on when hitting save and reboot in the bios :/ It got stuck on QCODE 01 and now after resetting I'm back to square 1 with the 8+Blank... I'll just redo everything again ... Reflash the BIOS unplug everything on the board and hope that having the CMOS jumper on didn't fry anything
post #9597 of 17018
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So... In my excitement I left the CMOS jumper on when hitting save and reboot in the bios :/ It got stuck on QCODE 01 and now after resetting I'm back to square 1 with the 8+Blank... I'll just redo everything again ... Reflash the BIOS unplug everything on the board and hope that having the CMOS jumper on didn't fry anything

Yea thats usually not good but you might be alright. Glad it got to the BIOS though so thats a good thing. Maybe something wasn't plugged too well to begin with, sometimes for me usually when i have ram issues reseating the ram helps quite a lot.

Usually they say the CMOS jumper with PC on is not good as per the manual but they always have warnings for "just in case". You should be alright though.
    
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Yea thats usually not good but you might be alright. Glad it got to the BIOS though so thats a good thing. Maybe something wasn't plugged too well to begin with, sometimes for me usually when i have ram issues reseating the ram helps quite a lot.

Usually they say the CMOS jumper with PC on is not good as per the manual but they always have warnings for "just in case". You should be alright though.

I just redid all the steps and I still get the single 8 with the other LED Blank :/ maybe it didn't clear the CMOS properly so I'll leave it in for 5-10 minutes now instead of seconds. Thanks for keeping my hope up though
post #9599 of 17018
@TwoBeers

Sweet thumb.gif , too many members with 1700 disable it to gain "realistic" temps, so I thought I'd mention it wink.gif .

@Benus74

1st R7 1700 needed +137mV for 3.8GHz, stability tested back to back for ~36hrs+. 3.9GHz was only tested for 10 loops x264, +181mV with LLC3 as info was not out on what variation LLC did as overshoot, this was ~1.465V on ProbIt point.

2nd R7 1700 needed +162mV for 3.8GHz, again back to back high hours stress testing. 3.9GHz it needs +250mV with LLC: [Auto], ~1.475V on ProbeIt, x264 20 loops.

Both did 4.0GHz bench stable with 3.9GHz voltage, not stress tested.

1st only did 2933MHz with stock VBOOT/VDIMM for RAM (1.35V), SOC: 0.900V in UEFI. 2nd 3200MHz with stock VBOOT/VDIMM for RAM (1.35V), SOC: 0.975V in UEFI after lengthy testing.

At stock 1st loaded with x264 ProbeIt point ~1.089V, 2nd ~1.119V, SOC also differed, 1st ~0.838V and 2nd ~0.893V on ProbeIt points. These stock voltage differences translated into similar voltage requirement for OC. etc. Idle differed for both, 2nd is higher, will look at my notepad (yeah paper & pen tools tongue.gif ).

3.7GHz ACB is a sweet spot IMO, I need only +50mV for 48 loops x264. Will be testing further. I was toying with getting a 3rd, but after seeing a lot of the OC result data I think I may pass on it.

Nice to read your enjoying your exploits thumb.gif .
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@gupsterg thanks for info, in fact I'm also reading your personal thread trying to see what other information I could get wink.gif

It's true that from base clock to 3.8Ghz cinebench score really increased a lot (from 1365 to 1631), but going to 3.9Ghz only got it to 1655.
Notice that I haven't tried OCing memory yet, and I'm sure this will also help in getting better performance out of my RIG.

Already for 4.0Ghz I've found that +0.2000 isn't enough as cinebench crashed after a few seconds.
I'll try bumping volts a bit more, but I don't really want to go above 1.45 vcore on DMM (if I remember well, this is where the risk would be increased).

But otherwise, any idea why my windows wouldn't decrease clock speed at idle?
I've installed the AMD power plan and I'm only using offset voltage and haven't touched VID (kept default of 3A).

I'm wondering if the AMD power plan could be the culprit.
btw - I'm on windows 10 creator as I didn't have any windows image until Friday smile.gif
(in fact, I haven't used windows since 2001 probably)
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