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We're aware of the cold boot issues, it's a platform problem and not specifically the C6H. I'll let you know when we have a solution.

And yes, you're right about the reason you're getting 1.5V (default VID + offset still in place). AMD has their own recovery procedure which is not playing nicely with ours. I believe I've explained this several times already.

Im sorry this is gonna be rude but im trying to be polite. So sorry. This will properly damage our chips in short term use with SAFE SET voltages. for a £270 board this is a major biggy that should have NEVER seen further than the R&D room. The 1.5v on boot loop has fueled this even more for me. Bugs with Vid and offset have been present from bios one and you focus on ram speeds rather than chip killers and Voltages. I feel you tryna please the masses and not focus on what really important. I bought a bespoke mobo I expected a few mishaps on new chipset but this board is winding me the hell up. When else is this happening behind the sences Because i get some weird readings every now and again?

You done well with the bios's and help on this page. there major problems lurking that have been masked in last bios only. Gupsterg and I only use modest volts but if it was someone a little more adventurous then they would have been hitting higher Volts than 1.5v and continued to try and get stable causes god knows how many loops. I have spent so much time in boot loots playing with bkcl and ram timings, I have even got distracted by RL and left pc in loop for about 5 mins. mad.gif Next time I tinker i will check my probit Vcore as well during fails If its showing high then *** !!!

I contacted support and got fobb'ed off with in short "contact the seller for advice" . My replacement back plate come this week if It dose not clear 90% of "MY" problems then im pushing support more.
My volts are higher than most's reported here. I see regular 200A spike on CPU /170-0.4v on SB/ In the past seen reports of 2v on chip from SVI.
Ram Is set 1.35 show 1.413-1.439/ Vcore is offset +0.11875 voltage shows 1.373 in bios But up to 1.46 in HW64/
Just seems like the read outs from board or the voltage controllers are knackered Why should a £270 board show different voltages to another. surely all boards of this standard should be 12v as 12v and 3.3 as 3.3. I have always seen it JUST under but never 12.361 and 3.401 its bs really


I know some of these are reading error. BUT ARE THEY ? i know they will not be what they are stated but still. I have looked though everyone's HW64 SS's and nothing this far out of wack.

I gonna stop my self here biggrin.gif

Angry vent over.
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Installed AMD chipset drivers since they were newer than the ASUS one's. This allowed installation of Aura but same problem as before, it crashes as soon as you try to open it.

Now AISuite3 just crashes when attempting to open. Not sure what is going on - all other programs seem to work fine without issue.
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In the name of science
Bios
F5 optimized defaults
Set ram to 3200 strap
Reboot


Surely bios should not allow this.

Nice to see what happens in HW64



For now I am dropping Pstates OC and any form of bkcl .

Pstates creates strange read outs not as aggressive as above

Bkcl knocks out my lights after setting changes in bios and cold boot.
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Originally Posted by elmor View Post

We're aware of the cold boot issues, it's a platform problem and not specifically the C6H. I'll let you know when we have a solution.

And yes, you're right about the reason you're getting 1.5V (default VID + offset still in place). AMD has their own recovery procedure which is not playing nicely with ours. I believe I've explained this several times already.


Ye had that 3 times now booted up with 1.6 vcore and some high aoc. Guess Transistors gotten bit of a clean shock therapy. Good it was not overshock and im on water with liquid metal tim so temps not moved pass 58c lol.


In other news since my foot is messed up and cant walk spend whole easter home alone i invested another 30 hours in tweeking.
I'w gotten 3600memory stable but CL18 since on 16 got errors bet 17 would do but cant do 17 :/
Edited by lordzed83 - 4/18/17 at 4:03am
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Originally Posted by Ubardog View Post

In the name of science
Bios
F5 optimized defaults
Set ram to 3200 strap
Reboot


Surely bios should not allow this.

Nice to see what happens in HW64



For now I am dropping Pstates OC and any form of bkcl .

Pstates creates strange read outs not as aggressive as above

Bkcl knocks out my lights after setting changes in bios and cold boot.

Is that with 1.44v for dram as well? Boy is that is not right. Did you reset the bios as well?

I am using PState OC but now when using High performance plan the voltage does not go down where as before it use to. The clocks speed on the different cores are working but the voltage is not. Going to Balance voltage drops like they should, AMD Balance Plan is the same as High performance. This also occurred before I tried the AMD Balance Plan.

AISuite3 even with Advanced Uninstall Pro 12 did not uninstall the files or the directory it was installed in plus a slew of registry files. Advanced Uninstall Pro 12 opened up the Asus uninstaller which said it was uninstalled once it went through it's process but it was not even close. I couldn't even delete the files because they were in use after the reboot. Had to go into safe mode and delete the files/directory for AISuite3 - then clean up the registry with CCleaner. That is pretty poor in my book for an application. Also when you install AiSuite3 it sets itself up to automatically start on boot up (after installation you need to reboot to finish so no choice in stopping automatic startup unless you use task manager startup editing). So during startup it was giving error after error. Plus there was another Asus directory with fan control and other stuff no clue what it was - it too had to be deleted in safe mode - that did not get deleted either. I like how Gigabyte does it with separate programs you load via a command center - not an all inclusive mess of programs which in my case I was only interested in Fan Control - now I am back to bios control - oh boy.
Edited by noko59 - 4/18/17 at 4:14am
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Originally Posted by lordzed83 View Post

Ye had that 3 times now booted up with 1.6 vcore and some high aoc. Guess Transistors gotten bit of a clean shock therapy. Good it was not overshock and im on water with liquid metal tim so temps not moved pass 58c lol.


In other news since my foot is messed up and cant walk spend whole easter home alone i invested another 30 hours in tweeking.
I'w gotten 3600memory stable but CL18 since on 16 got errors bet 17 would do but cant do 17 :/

1.6v is probably barely OK - I can tell you 1.8v does make a lasting difference with one time endeavour with Window Startup and subsequent crash.
Edited by noko59 - 4/18/17 at 4:16am
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@gupsterg Thanks mate for testing this out !

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Originally Posted by elmor View Post


And yes, you're right about the reason you're getting 1.5V (default VID + offset still in place). AMD has their own recovery procedure which is not playing nicely with ours. I believe I've explained this several times already.

@elmor

1.5v doesnt sounds like "default VID + offset still in place" but more like: "Default VID + Offset + (some)Offset" !
Correct me if im wrong..
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Originally Posted by majestynl View Post

@gupsterg Thanks mate for testing this out !
@elmor

1.5v doesnt sounds like "default VID + offset still in place" but more like: "Default VID + Offset + (some)Offset" !
Correct me if im wrong..

Mine did as elmor said. My VID voltage is 1.395v and my offset was 0.2525.

When using P-States it uses the "default" 1700 voltage of 1.175v + my offset, but when that failed it went back to VID + 0.2525, giving me 1.6475v, which is what I saw when I entered BIOS.
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Originally Posted by majestynl View Post

@gupsterg Thanks mate for testing this out !
@elmor


NP smile.gif .

1.5v doesnt sounds like "default VID + offset still in place" but more like: "Default VID + Offset + (some)Offset" !
Correct me if im wrong..

In default state in UEFI it's doesn't have "power saving", etc on. As we have no idea what clock we're at in a true sense, if say PB/XFR is going on when in UEFI "we" could see higher VCORE as "we" see in OS in default state.

Only what's bouncing in my head redface.gif .
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Samsung Evo 840 ThermalRight Archon IB-E X2 + 2x TY143 ThermalRight TY-143 2x front case intake Arctic Cooling F12 + 2x F9 as rear case exhaust 
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