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Use WSUS Offline updater and you're good to go.
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post #102 of 143
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Originally Posted by TELVM View Post

Thanks to FastMHz & Kert06! thumb.gif
Yes that's a feature of running Windows 7 on Ryzen, you'll never again be pestered with malware from Microsoft, yay! thumbsupsmiley.png

Finally a nag free windows! It's about time they released this! smile.gif
post #103 of 143
Ended up slip-streaming the wrong USB3 drivers, which made installation a pain, even though I installed from DVD. NVMe drivers worked great though, so I just had to struggle with only a keyboard (PS2) until I got the drivers installed.

Everything seems great now. Got BIOS updated, Programs partially installed. Many Windows Updates installed. (Man, they install FAST with 8 cores & NVMe SSD!!) Being slow on updates, making sure I don't accidentally install one with something undesirable in it. Works great and fast, though!

Next is trying to get it to run at OC ram speeds.....
post #104 of 143
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Ended up slip-streaming the wrong USB3 drivers, which made installation a pain, even though I installed from DVD. NVMe drivers worked great though, so I just had to struggle with only a keyboard (PS2) until I got the drivers installed.

Everything seems great now. Got BIOS updated, Programs partially installed. Many Windows Updates installed. (Man, they install FAST with 8 cores & NVMe SSD!!) Being slow on updates, making sure I don't accidentally install one with something undesirable in it. Works great and fast, though!

Next is trying to get it to run at OC ram speeds.....

Next get your services straitened out and make a reg backup. wink.gif
post #105 of 143
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Originally Posted by FastMHz View Post

They may not have thought of it but it sure as heck runs like a dream!

That is just coincidental. Ryzen began development in 2015, so most software made before 2015 probably won't be optimized.
post #106 of 143
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Originally Posted by 1n5aN1aC View Post

Ended up slip-streaming the wrong USB3 drivers, which made installation a pain, even though I installed from DVD. NVMe drivers worked great though, so I just had to struggle with only a keyboard (PS2) until I got the drivers installed.

Everything seems great now. Got BIOS updated, Programs partially installed. Many Windows Updates installed. (Man, they install FAST with 8 cores & NVMe SSD!!) Being slow on updates, making sure I don't accidentally install one with something undesirable in it. Works great and fast, though!

Next is trying to get it to run at OC ram speeds.....

You were lucky! I ordered a PS/2 Keyboard from Amazon Prime Same-Day and it didn't work! Not sure if it was the keyboard that was faulty or the drivers for the PS/2 on my Gigabyte Aorus GA-AX370-Gaming K7 mobo, but I had to go through a series of reboots, google searches, different driver downloads and loads of luck for 2 days before I was able to successfully install and stablize my Windows 7 Pro 64bit Ryzen build. rolleyes.gif

However, I did get my Ryzen 7 1700 to overclock to 3.8GHz on 1.3V and my Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8) DDR4 2666MHz RAM to work at those speeds with the recommended timings on the modules.

So you didn't have any issues with the Windows 7 updates, eh? I never let mine run! I wonder if I should? redface.gif
Edited by ThaWatcher - 4/14/17 at 10:27am
post #107 of 143
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Originally Posted by ThaWatcher View Post

You were lucky! I ordered a PS/2 Keyboard from Amazon Prime Same-Day and it didn't work! Not sure if it was the keyboard that was faulty or the drivers for the PS/2 on my Gigabyte Aorus GA-AX370-Gaming K7 mobo, but I had to go through a series of reboots, google searches, different driver downloads and loads of luck for 2 days before I was able to successfully install and stablize my Windows 7 Pro 64bit Ryzen build. rolleyes.gif

However, I did get my Ryzen 7 1700 to overclock to 3.8GHz on 1.3V and my Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8) DDR4 2666MHz RAM to work at those speeds with the recommended timings on the modules.

So you didn't have any issues with the Windows 7 updates, eh? I never let mine run! I wonder if I should? redface.gif

Oh wow! I've never had issues with a PS2 keyboard, ever!
EDIT: Besides the annoyance that PS/2 devices have to be plugged in when the system starts, or they don't work until a reboot. :/

Anyways, yes I've installed updates. I installed ALL updates to around mid 2016 or so, then after that, I googled every single KB number to decide if I wanted to install it or not.

I have around 5 updates HIDDEN, and around 4 very recent updates where there doesn't seem to be full consensus on whether it's clean or not, so those are just left hanging.
post #108 of 143
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Originally Posted by ThaWatcher View Post

You were lucky! I ordered a PS/2 Keyboard from Amazon Prime Same-Day and it didn't work! Not sure if it was the keyboard that was faulty or the drivers for the PS/2 on my Gigabyte Aorus GA-AX370-Gaming K7 mobo, but I had to go through a series of reboots, google searches, different driver downloads and loads of luck for 2 days before I was able to successfully install and stablize my Windows 7 Pro 64bit Ryzen build. rolleyes.gif

However, I did get my Ryzen 7 1700 to overclock to 3.8GHz on 1.3V and my Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8) DDR4 2666MHz RAM to work at those speeds with the recommended timings on the modules.

So you didn't have any issues with the Windows 7 updates, eh? I never let mine run! I wonder if I should? redface.gif

Ps/2 support is written in the bios so you don't need a driver. and when all versions of windows load (since at least 3.1 anyway that i can remember) the OS has the ps/2 keyboard generic driver autoload on detect.

Did you by a specialized keyboard that is non compliant? The cheapest keyboard you can find will work sans added driver.

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Originally Posted by 1n5aN1aC View Post

Oh wow! I've never had issues with a PS2 keyboard, ever!
EDIT: Besides the annoyance that PS/2 devices have to be plugged in when the system starts, or they don't work until a reboot. :/

Anyways, yes I've installed updates. I installed ALL updates to around mid 2016 or so, then after that, I googled every single KB number to decide if I wanted to install it or not.

I have around 5 updates HIDDEN, and around 4 very recent updates where there doesn't seem to be full consensus on whether it's clean or not, so those are just left hanging.

Back in the day when yoyu plugged a ps/2 device in hot the board fried the ps/2 circuit! Even now I'm leary and do a shutdown first.smile.gif
post #109 of 143
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Originally Posted by Hueristic View Post

Ps/2 support is written in the bios so you don't need a driver. and when all versions of windows load (since at least 3.1 anyway that i can remember) the OS has the ps/2 keyboard generic driver autoload on detect.

Did you by a specialized keyboard that is non compliant? The cheapest keyboard you can find will work sans added driver.
Back in the day when yoyu plugged a ps/2 device in hot the board fried the ps/2 circuit! Even now I'm leary and do a shutdown first.smile.gif

This is the keyboard I tried out:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0075W8C8S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I'm pretty sure it was defective. I've since returned it and got a refund even though it didn't cost much to begin with.

This is why I like keeping my old computer stuff. Had I not gave my old Sony Vaio computer to my cousin, who gave it away, I would have had a PS/2 keyboard I knew would have worked.
Edited by ThaWatcher - 4/14/17 at 12:06pm
post #110 of 143
Yeah, that must have been bad luck and you got a lemon. that really bites when your trying to trouble shoot and they send you a defective item, been there hate that!

I always keep a ps/2 keyboard and mouse around as well as a PCI vid card, but recently I've found alot of intel boards will not boot with a pci card only so that really bites. The PCI card made it gereat to boot and flash a bad bois but I guess those days are gone, gotta gfet a pcie 1x card for that now. smile.gif
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