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Oh wow! Mine is getting over 3,000MB/s and it's only the 250GB. I've seen people with the 500GB getting better readings than mine because of something about how the speed scales better with more storage? I'm not sure, but that would really be cool if true.

Windows 7 has no official support by Ryzen. Very outdated, probably doesn't make full use of the architecture
post #122 of 143
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Windows 7 has no official support by Ryzen. Very outdated, probably doesn't make full use of the architecture

 

Thanks, I appreciate the info, but I'm pretty sure everyone on this forum knows Windows 7 is not being supported or updated anymore and we really don't care or else we would've got Windows 10.


Edited by ThaWatcher - 4/21/17 at 2:38pm
post #123 of 143
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Oh wow! Mine is getting over 3,000MB/s and it's only the 250GB. I've seen people with the 500GB getting better readings than mine because of something about how the speed scales better with more storage? I'm not sure, but that would really be cool if true.

Ignore what @b0oMeR said, because while this is partially true, there is little major that should make a difference. Besides there are plenty of people I've seen around getting at least 2,500MB/s on Win 7.

Yeah, it does scale somewhat based on size. I don't necessarily expect to get FULL speed, as I am using full-disk encryption, and I am on Win 7. But I see no reason why I am getting considerably less than half of full speed. The only things that people have suggested so far should only make a small amount of difference, or have been complete speculation.

Regardless, I've stopped worrying about it temporarily while I'm working on getting my RAM up to speed, and hopefully get some overclock action too. But if you have any ideas, please tell!
post #124 of 143
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Glad to hear you're having fun with your Ryzen build! I'm stable and comfortable at a 3.9GHz overclock with my RAM running at the advertised 2666MHz speeds.

Just curious.. why didn't you use an NVMe SSD like the Samsung 960 EVO? I only ask because I was going to do normal SSDs until I realized the Samsung EVO 960 250GB was only $130. Small price to pay for the speed.

I didn't use NVMe because I like easily swappable drives for multiple OSes

Also TELVM, thanks for that link! A couple of those look out of production, but I may grab an ADATA SX930 to play with. I'd grab the Toshiba one in a heartbeat if Amazon or NewEgg had 'em.
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post #125 of 143
Just thought I'd bring up this gaming problem to see if there's anyone else having it. I didn't know where else to post it because this is a thread for Windows 7 and Ryzen, which is the combination I'm looking for. Well, and also those who have their OS on a M.2 NVMe SSD with their games on a speed SSD...
 

I've discovered that I'm experiencing freezing occasionally with not only GTA V (Rockstar, not the Steam, version) but also with Batman Arkham Knight and Fallout 4 on Steam when the OS is located on a Samsung EVO 960 250GB M.2 NVMe SSD along with some game files that can't be moved (Rockstar Social Club) and the actual game resides on a regular ADATA Premier SP550 480GB SSD with both being on the latest firmware and all Windows 7 updates have been applied (yeah, I know it's not being supported further).

 

You can catch the freeze in the video below at 1:31 as I've shown FPS and other information on the left side of the screen in yellow:

 

 

 

You can see the Batman Arkham Knight freezing in this video below:

 

 

The only way I can remedy this situation is to place the GTA V game install on the same drive as my OS and the Rockstar Social Club installation. My guess is the Samsung EVO 960 250GB M.2 NVMe SSD that I have is just too fast for a regular SSD to keep up with? But it doesn't explain why I don't have this problem with Watchdogs 2 and Metal Gear Solid: Phantom Pain as they are also on the regular SSD along with the Uplay application and launcher.

 

I don't want to have to keep these on my M.2 NVMe SSD because it's only 250GB and there's not even room to update Batman with all of the DLC.

 

Anyone have any suggestions or comments? Have any of you experienced something like this since you've built your Ryzen PC along with an M.2 NVMe?


Edited by ThaWatcher - 4/29/17 at 6:01am
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My understanding is that the SATA drivers still need work on a Ryzen system. Keep checking back at AMD's, your SSD's, and your motherboard's website for driver, firmware or BIOS/driver updates respectively, is all I can say.
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post #127 of 143
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My understanding is that the SATA drivers still need work on a Ryzen system. Keep checking back at AMD's, your SSD's, and your motherboard's website for driver, firmware or BIOS/driver updates respectively, is all I can say.

 

Wow... your post was right after I updated my BIOS to F3 and I tested Arkham Knight and Fallout 4 again and it didn't freeze this time!

 

However, I did an alternative experiment to see if using a regular SSD for the boot drive would alleviate this mess. So I cloned my Samsung EVO 960 250GB M.2 NVMe SSD to my ADATA 480GB SSD and played those respective games and they were still freezing. That's when I figured I needed to exhaust all possibilities of the problem so I updated the BIOS to F3 and voila! Well, at least on that regular SSD. I'm now back on the M.2 NVMe as my boot drive and I'm going to replicate the original setup with the game on the regular SSD and see how it goes.

 

Thank you for taking the time to help.

post #128 of 143
Congratulations gentlemen, according to this:

Windows 7 update lockout claims older Intel, AMD processors

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... Now, some older Intel and AMD processors are unexpectedly getting the blockade treatment ...


You can hereby consider yourselves fellow members of the blockade runner fraternity. biggrin.gif

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Congratulations gentlemen, according to this:

Windows 7 update lockout claims older Intel, AMD processors
You can hereby consider yourselves fellow members of the blockade runner fraternity. biggrin.gif



Hah, I blockaded myself as soon as I installed 7 and have never looked back. biggrin.gif
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Hah, I blockaded myself as soon as I installed 7 and have never looked back. biggrin.gif

 

My sentiments exactly! tonguesmiley.gif

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