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i decided to purchase the following for the build
Zotac 1050ti mini 4GB (150 at Walmart.com but I could have gotten the 2gb version for 90 shipped at Jet.com yet I had an 80 dollar Walmart gift card and I didnt see the 2gb version on the Walmart.com website)
Sandisk 120gb SSD (44.95 at Best Buy)
Apevia 450PSU (20.99 shipped Amazon, basically an improvement over 2010 era OEM)



I had checked the mechanical hard drive for any bad sectors but there were none to make sure there were no issues during testing



This is the inside of the case, it had plenty of room for what I needed. It has 3GB DDR3-1066 memory that I memtest for 36 hours for errors running in dual channel mode.



I didn't like the read/writes on the mechanical hard drive which prompted for me to go with a economy SSD since its sata 2 only on this chipset.


e7500 was long in the tooth, pretty much equiv to a Athlon II X2 240/250 at stock. Overclocked liked a beast on an aftermarket board back in the day.



The old GPU is fine for HTPC/Browsing purposes but horrible for modern gaming. The 1GB of DDR3 does nothing for the card gaming wise. Would probably play 2005 era games ok (Half Life 2, KOTOR)



As you can see it can't even run DX11 base level games at 720p medium settings at any playable framrate. i assume its worse than even Iris Pro even as a dedicated card. Pretty much modern day level R3 graphics


On PCMark it got a pretty low end score, might have been ok for 2009-2010?


This is the OEM PSU in the computer, at around 240w I wasnt convinced it could handle a major gpu/cpu upgrade at load.


I got a 20 dollar PSU off Amazon, good ratings and fine for what I was wanting to do. Some people would probably prefer to go with the EVGA 430w that is 15 dollars more but since there wasn't a need for a 6 pin on the card I got decided to roll with the Apevia;.If you go with a Radeon 460 the EVGA would be a better choice im sure.



The GTX 1050ti fit nicely in the case, on took up only slot and didn't need external power. Would probably fit in a SFF case just fine.


I restarted and it booted with no issues, Windows 10 then installed the default Nvidia drivers


In Heaven it was the difference between night and day at 720p medium settings against the old Radeon card



I then decided to upgrade to the Core 2 Quad Q9450, was 25 bucks on ebay, has more level 2 cache than the Q8200 or Q9300 series which can be had for 10 dollars less.yet I decided the extra L2 cache would help for gaming.
My ideal was the Q9650 yet it was still a little too high for my tastes performance wise and since this you can't even overclock on this machine I decided to stay economical. The Q9450 is pretty much the eqiv of a Phenom II 945.

This machine can in fact support
the LGA 771 mod but with Core 2 Quad prices alot cheaper vs 2013 I stuck with 775 to avoid any problems longterm. Once Core 2 Quad Extreme prices go down in a year I most likely will get that.



This was the PCMark score with the 1050ti and the e7500



The addition of the Q9450 helped in Heaven yet minimum frames dipped very low. An improvement yet nothing massive. I am using the default Windows 10 Nvidia drivers for this card that updates automatically. We will see later if Forceware drivers help this.



PCMark gave a lower score with the introduction of the Q9450 (clock speed vs dual core?)

Edited by dlee7283 - 3/6/17 at 11:22pm
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Not sure I'd use the term Modern, but it's much improved. smile.gif

Why is 3dmark identifying it as Generic VGA?
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Not sure I'd use the term Modern, but it's much improved. smile.gif

Why is 3dmark identifying it as Generic VGA?

Thats what it identifies as when you let Windows 10 Install Nvidia drivers

Also more to come later with SSD and Nvidia website Drivers
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You will need to get 8gb of ram for that machine.

I have my old 7950 in my old C2Q, and moving from 4gb of ram to 8gb made a huge difference. 4gb of system ram just drops frames way too often.

Good thing you have ddr3.
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You will need to get 8gb of ram for that machine.

I have my old 7950 in my old C2Q, and moving from 4gb of ram to 8gb made a huge difference. 4gb of system ram just drops frames way too often.

Good thing you have ddr3.


I am starting to think that myself. I just have some good ddr3 memory laying around that works with an AMD machine but won't with this one. The chipset seems to be picky and basically will run on Kingston Value level ram but won't on higher performance ram even at 1066.

I am surprised though how good alot of games are running with just 3gb of system memory.
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My final benchmarks with this machine



I decided I might add more ram later and do more tests but for now its a 3gb machine as I had to use the money toward another build and wanted to keep the machine on the amount of ram it probably would have had for most of its life. Really enjoyed seeing how well this chip age through the benchmarks. Its pretty much was a viable gaming chip for any pc game released 2008-2013. At stock this pretty chip gave you a high end gaming experience for around 65 dollars a year.
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Hello dlee,

Created throwaway and did not verify but hope I can get through to you on this forum.

You stated in that forum thread that you were going to post more information how you updated the SSD on the Dell Optiplex 380. I have been researching ssd in this machine thoroughly prior to my own installation and some of the specific Dell community forum regarding ssd in this machine has left their servers it seems.

I have found some information related to it within their forums but some issues give me pause:

neophyte computer user here:

1. "AHCI/ ATA mode" - is this legacy enabled within the new bios? (still have to update to a07 myself before completing these upgrades) or not available at all? some members of the dell forum have been left unanswered regarding this ahci configuration which I assume does not allow them to install ssd or conor recommend only a few different crucial flash drive upgrade. which specifications that you bought of the eco hard drive allow this to work in the dell optiplex 380 like a charm? what is highest end ssd that will work on this mobo? which Sata port did you use? is this sata-0? This shoudl get it 3gb/s ?

more discussion can be found here :

http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/t/19483047
http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/disk-drives/f/3534/t/19482632

2. Really just curious if there were any particular issues you ran into when updating ssd because I can't find a good guide for it and maybe you could share your literature or what you did with me before I mess the entire thing up.

Thank you so much,
Matt

Could you leave a reply here or on the forum detailing the ssd install?
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Hello dlee,

Created throwaway and did not verify but hope I can get through to you on this forum.

You stated in that forum thread that you were going to post more information how you updated the SSD on the Dell Optiplex 380. I have been researching ssd in this machine thoroughly prior to my own installation and some of the specific Dell community forum regarding ssd in this machine has left their servers it seems.

I have found some information related to it within their forums but some issues give me pause:

neophyte computer user here:

1. "AHCI/ ATA mode" - is this legacy enabled within the new bios? (still have to update to a07 myself before completing these upgrades) or not available at all? some members of the dell forum have been left unanswered regarding this ahci configuration which I assume does not allow them to install ssd or conor recommend only a few different crucial flash drive upgrade. which specifications that you bought of the eco hard drive allow this to work in the dell optiplex 380 like a charm? what is highest end ssd that will work on this mobo? which Sata port did you use? is this sata-0? This shoudl get it 3gb/s ?

more discussion can be found here :

http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/t/19483047
http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/disk-drives/f/3534/t/19482632

2. Really just curious if there were any particular issues you ran into when updating ssd because I can't find a good guide for it and maybe you could share your literature or what you did with me before I mess the entire thing up.

Thank you so much,
Matt

Could you leave a reply here or on the forum detailing the ssd install?

PM me if you need to. I am just now seeing this.
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